More moderation for the British forum? Vote in the poll

Fighting talk.

 

Well the case is that people really don't like the place. The case is that reporting is through the roof, and so are bans, which is why so many people are complaining about the reporting and the bans (And the resultant alts). This has been for a while, too.

I've already laid out the case - it's no better or worse than it appears - and it looks like there will probably be some changes, as you say, that limit free speech.

But about this "free speech" idea: it's not a clear one. People who talk it generally don't understand what they mean (no offence and maybe you do). If a Liverpool fan goes to an Everton bar and starts mouthing off about how **** Everton are, the bouncers remove him from the bar, sometimes with a physical warning You understand, intrinsically, that this is reasonable, you don't start crying about freedom of speech. Some sawdust bars allow almost anything; some in-between bars draw the line at football tops or rampant drunkeness; some posh bars won't even allow newspapapers or cursing - and there are rare places where you need a suit to attend. And all of them can change at the dorp of a hat.

That's all an internet forum is. It has nothing to do with "freedom of speech".

 

Well it's been laid out pretty explicitly in this thread; it's also laid out at the top of every RBR thread. I do agree it's helpful when mods pm posters abotu potential misunderstandings but I really do get frustrated by the signal theft thing. If you talk about the fight and how you watch it you MUST be careful about how you express yourself. Everyone knows that, but people still get caught out.

 

I'm not trying to say that though: what i'm sayng is that you're not on "the internet". You're in a private space that is accesable to the public. Same as a bar is a private space. Smae as coffee shop is a private space. You still see bars with the "we reserve the right to refuse service" in the UK. Well that happens here too. From the rules thread in the general forum:

"Forum rules and guidelines are not up for debate. Posting on our boards is a privilege, not a right. Anyone arguing with a Moderator against disciplinary measures will be removed from the forum. If you disagree, or want clarification as to why a particular topic, post or individual was removed, you must e-mail us...We reserve the right to delete any message for any or no reason whatsoever."

What i'm trying to get across here is that you can't do what you like in a theatre; you don't have to shout "fire". You can start yapping about subject x and be asked to leave. It's a privately owned space. "We reserve the right to delete any message for any reason."

Now sometimes people get upset when they read this stuff for the first time, so let me just say: this is not going to get wildly wild. I am not talking, at this time, about the draconian enforcement of crazy new rules. I'll be guided by the forum, that is what this thread is for. But if the poll stays the same some freedoms will be impinged for a supposed increase in quality. And then we'll see.

This forum is huge. There are thousands of posts every day. If nobody reported anything, we'd need double the number of mods we have, at least. We need more people to report stuff, not less.

But the concentration coming out of British has been odd, yes.

 

I reject what you have said though. And i've explained why elsewhere. Briefly: you can't get banned for being pro- or anti- anything. That just won't happen. You MUST infringe the rules to receive a ban. So to take your analogy further - it's like another meber of the public going up to the bouncer and saying to the bouncer: that person over there is talking quietly with his friend and looking at the paper, throw him out. And the bouncer saying: no.

So, you're wrong.

 

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