Jersey Joe Walcott in H2H matches.. How does he do?

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  1. itrymariti

    itrymariti CaƱas! Full Member

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    A black white person born to black parents?

    :rofl
     
  2. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    what the hell happened to this thread lol
     
  3. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    Sarcasm off:

    Seriously, Joe Louis had a Native American grandmother, he has no known European ancestory. I wish Kennorton was also being sarcastic...I don't know.
     
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    Bonecrusher Lineal Champion Full Member

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    Because in my eyes Foreman is better then Liston, he is the heavier puncher and has a ton more guts, I see Liston getting frustrated as he could not catch up to JW and going in the tank, but Foreman would get to him before he runs out of gas and score the KO.
     
  5. SuzieQ49

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    Whatever floats your boat I guess. I think it's a highly questionable notion that Foreman was better than Liston. There is no evidence Foreman is a heavier puncher, and there is no evidence he has more guts. Liston is the more technically sound fighter, and is more skilled in my opinion from watching both on film. If anyone gets frustrated, it will be foreman swinging and missing at the air and tiring himself out. Liston actually had good stamina and proved he could fight 12 hard paced rounds vs Eddie Machen. He also knew how to conserve his energy and skillfully box. Foreman only knew how to fight like a wild gorilla swinging missing huffing and puffing swinging missing. Sure if he landed you were toast, but he telegraphed many of those punches, Ali and Young saw it from a mile away. Slick Boxers Folley and Machen could not capitalize on liston, because sonny was a well rounded fighter.
     
  6. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    True but Joe had the power edge in both hands...Gene was way ahead of his times and had the fastest feet and hands until Patterson and Ali but JJW had the slick moves, the shuffle and power
     
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    Even in the Frazier fight ,thinking about it I can see JJW pinpointing a few power shots on Frazier and putting him on his ass, I can see JJW winning that, It was the pressure that a swarmer like Frazier and lack of aggression by Walcott that give me the indication that Frazier would come on late vs an older Walcott...But the Walcott that lost to Louis and Marciano may be able to rock JF out of there or be content with a could of pinpoint knock-downs and take the nod....Walcott is definitely the ATG spoiler in this division and one of the best on a lb4lb list, top 25 list of spoilers
     
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  8. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    Bump because I think it's an interesting topic, Walcott is a tough fight for everyone in heavyweight history IMO.
     
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    Interesting question. I'm sorry to say that apart from Terrell,Tua, and Norton,I think he loses! Which pretty much surprised me!
     
  10. janitor

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    Better than his record would suggest.

    Give him the same kind of financial support, as even lower top five in the early 40s, and he makes an impact much sooner.

    Who knows how far he could have gone?
     
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  11. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    You want him to fight Ali twice ?

    Of that bunch, there'd be some close fights, but I have him losing to all of them except maybe Tunney.

    And I wouldn't bet any money on him beating Tunney either.
     
  12. Mark Dunham

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    highly skilled but too small
     
  13. Mark Dunham

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    Yes, I can believe this
     
  14. janitor

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    He wouldn't have been particularly small in any era before the mid 80s.
     
  15. Mark Dunham

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    Liston and Foreman are really just two sides of the same coin