Wlad Was Dying For A Rematch With Fury

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  1. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You're a more prolific poster than I am, you're not losing interest anytime soon you dishonest fool.
     
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    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Boxrec: 11-1 Fury
    Eyeonthering: 10-2 Fury
    Wlad's judges in Germany 8-4/9-3 Fury

    No one cares about your buffoonish individual scorecard. The onus was on Wlad to throw more punches but despite getting outboxed, he didn't want to risk gassing out or getting caught.
     
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    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    That's obviously not true, Red.

    You cared enough to research other folks scores and post your own two cents worth.
     
  4. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Those are the combined scores of hundreds of scorecards plus the scorecards of pro judges (who favour the A-side), not some random with an obvious axe to grind.
     
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    The only thing that warranted the rematch was the rematch clause Wlads team put in the contract which Fury had to agree to or he would not have got the fight despite him being mandatory.Fury had him beat with the mind games before the fight. Wlads team fitted extra ring padding,had him wearing platforms in his shoes pre fight,glove saga etc as well as the fact that the game plan Fury followed despite it not being fan friendly it was very effective so much so that Wlad was so frustrated he grabbed hold of Fury in the 11th round with both hands and deliberately stuck the head on him in front of the ref Tony Weeks who did nothing .
     
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    Mickc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Straight from Boxrec’s own page .
    https://boxrec.com/en/scoring/2012278
     
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    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Your point was that no-one cared about my take on the fight.

    Your own post proved that to be false. That much is obvious.


    And the overwhelming majority of fans thought the fight was dull and showed little ion the way of boxing skill from either man.


    BTW, could you explain the bit about the axe to grind ?

    That should be easy since you said it was obvious.
     
  8. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Even if Wlad managed to land his best punches at best he would have dropped Fury and you know what Fury does when he gets dropped? He goes to war and will destroy any man not named Joe Joyce in this event. Men this size cannot handle Furys physicality because they can't deal with an equally big man coming after them non stop.
     
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    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

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    That’s a very unique way to say that “it was Fury’s 25th professional fight, in his seventh year as a professional”.

    Talk about making it look like Fury was a kid with barely any experience in the ring.
     
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    Sure. That’s why he ducked Usyk twice last year and fought Whyte and Chisora instead (and retired and un-retired seventeen times between those two fights). That’s why he still hasn’t signed the contract he received from team Usyk in early November. That’s why he keeps mentioning how “if the Usyk fight won’t happen”, setting the tone up for saving face when he ducks Usyk for the umpteenth time.

    To put it mildly, despite his middleweight this, middleweight that routine, Fury showed absolutely no signs of his wanting to face Usyk - quite the opposite. Here’s hoping he stops running to receive his well-deserved L from Usyk soon. But Team Fury knows it too that Usyk will be the downfall of Fury, so I’ll only believe Fury will finally face Usyk when the ring walks start. Until then, I remained convinced that Fury will keep ducking Usyk until he retires.
     
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    It's similar to when Cassius Clay suddenly got a bad hernia when he heard Liston was in good shape for their rematch.
     
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    Keep living in your fantasy world. Fury will fight Usyk, he'll most likely beat Usyk and you'll be left scrambling around for excuses to give him no credit.
     
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    You are obviously projecting, mate. Since this is how you'd react, you assume others would react the same way.

    You couldn't be more wrong. Unless it will be some blatant Lewis-Holyfield I style robbery, I will have no problem giving credit to Fury in case he wins. He is a fantastic fighter after all. A protected champion with a risible resume, and an absolutely detestable human being, but in terms of talent and skills, he is tremendous. But I'm quite confident Usyk will be simply all wrong for him because he represents everything that is a stylistic nightmare for Fury. While it is the HW division, so anyone can beat anyone, realistically, Fury is doomed.

    If a Cunningham who is not a poor man's but a homeless man's Usyk can put you on your arse and give you hell so much so that you still to this day claim it was the toughest fight of your life, then Usyk will dismantle you and end your career. Usyk is ten times the fighter Cunningham ever was, and not only Fury is slower and 10 years older since, but he hasn't fought anyone even remotely resembling Cunningham. He only faced big, slow, flat-footed plodders like Wilder and Whyte. All in all, Usyk is just a terrible matchup for Fury who is no spring chicken either and also, all that boozing, weight gaining and gak snorting clearly caught up with him. He has been visibly declining since the second Wilder fight: he was slower and had poorer stamina in the third Wilder fight, then he was even slower against Whyte, then again, slower still against Chisora.

    So based on all this, the most likely scenario is that Usyk will deal with him just as effortlessly and confidently as he dealt with Joshua. He said so himself how confident he was about beating Fury - and Usyk has never been one to say things just for the sake of saying them, wind someone up, play mind games, sell the fight etc. Usyk only says things he means, then back it up in the ring. Fury knows all of this. He knows Usyk is coming for him and all the shitshow with the artificial 0-loss record and the "no man born from his mother" nonsense will be over. No wonder he is scared shitless of Usyk and has been trying his hardest to duck him since last January.
     
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    "showed little ion the way of boxing skill from either man."

    They're morons with agendas. Wlad and Fury are easily two of the most skilful heavyweights ever.

    You could say that Wlad won 12-0, I couldn't care less about your individual nonsense score. If even Wlad's judges are giving Fury 8 or 9 rounds, and most neutrals are giving Fury even more than that, it's a dominant points win/schooling by consensus. Even more so as Fury nullified Wlad to such a degree that he broke the record for fewest punches taken from a champion in a 12 round fight in any weight class.

    It was much more exciting live than watching it back when you already know the result. But no one is forcing you to watch it again, you can watch Alen Babic instead.

    I went back and looked at a BBC sport comments section from 2015. Most of them disliked Fury, generally because of his "homophobia" and "sexism". So it's no shock that he got very little credit from these unthinking plebs for one of the greatest heavyweight wins ever.
     
  15. Alexandrow Vids

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    Fury would defeat any version of Wlad.
     
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