Could the best version of Floyd Mayweather beat the Marvin Hagler who lost to Sugar Ray Leonard?

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Could the best version of Floyd Mayweather beat the Marvin Hagler who lost to Sugar Ray Leonard?

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  2. No

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  1. Loudon

    Loudon VIP Member Full Member

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    Ha!

    Are you actually being serious?

    Don’t be stupid.

    Yes, this is a fantasy fight looking at the version of Marvin that Ray fought.

    As in - a 1987 version.

    So we are speculating how that version may have fared.

    However, that doesn’t mean that we have to assume that he’d have chosen the exact same strategy and tactics that he did against Ray.

    Have a day off.

    If we looked at a fantasy fight between fighter X, and Ali from the Foreman fight, would we have to assume that Ali would have employed the same ‘rope a dope’ tactics?

    SMH.
     
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  2. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Don't worry, " Mark" and " Red Rooster" will still prefer their fiction over the facts....
     
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  3. ThatOne

    ThatOne Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm not a huge Compu Box fan but it's a check on the judging. If a fighter won both it's hard to call it a robbery.
     
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  4. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not that Mayweather Jr wouldn't have the skills, but he'd be severely overwhelmed by Haglers strength and size.
    I see the same results as Hagler vs Duran. A fight where the smaller man may have had better overall skills, but it only kept the bull at bay for just so long.
    Unlike fighters like Leonard and Hearns that carried their power and physicality with them as they went up in weight. May Jr. Never demonstrated that. This is proven on how many distance fights he had as he went up in weight. His ko percentages took a nose dive as his weight increased.
    Factor this in with the fact of most of his opponents ( All?) were basically past their primes, or wasn't that great at all , I see a fighter that would've had a few losses if he fought in a different era as he went up in weight.
    I see a fight between Hagler and Mayweather as almost a carbon copy of the fight Hagler had against Duran.
    Even the version of Hagler that fought Leonard. Hagler eventually grind him down, get a late stoppage or win a dec.
    Also, another fact Mayweather Jr. Fans refuse to except. His very best was never at welterweight, but at Jr. Lightweight.
    He was smart enough to realize this and became very selective about his opponents as he went up in weight.
    So unless you believe a natural super featherweight would have a chance against a natural middleweight , even a slightly past prime middleweight in Hagler their shouldn't be any doubt about who would actually win this fight.
    Hagler would simply overwhelm him.
     
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  5. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The best version of Floyd was probably at junior lightweight so probably not.
     
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  6. Mark Dunham

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    Compu box is flawed and outdated technology

    Upon further review, we find that;

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    Hagler won by quite a margin, justifying the claims from Hagler fans that Hagler emerged the true winner, although by no means impressive.

    Still, a win is a win and Hagler left the sport with 63 - 2 - 2

    while Leonard is left with a very average 35 - 5
     
  7. ThatOne

    ThatOne Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If you believe a fighter who lost on rhe scorecards and the punch stats won the fight there is nothing I can do to disabuse you of that notion. Oh, and please don't forget to vote. Thank you in advance.
     
  8. Mark Dunham

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    that's hilarious

    Duran of the infamous no mas fight, the author of quitting in mid round, calling Hagler a coward

    and what's worse, you were the one to quote him, believing you had a valid point
     
  9. Mark Dunham

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    almost ANY decent fighter would stand a good chance the cheap, lifeless version of '87

    just slightly superior to Don Lalonde '88
     
  10. ThatOne

    ThatOne Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sir, I merely quoted Duran. If you want my thoughts on it you could have been asked me. I'll show you the courtesy you didn't show me and give me you my thoughts. I thought it was quintessentially Duran. If you want I'll elaborate. Oh, and please vote in my poll. Thank you in advance.
     
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  11. Mark Dunham

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    just stating the facts

    cant argue with numbers and the eye cannot lie!

    so you are s$#%t out of luck this time and we both know it

    Leonard lost to Hagler, no matter HOW washed up he was!
     
  12. Mark Dunham

    Mark Dunham Well-Known Member Full Member

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    why would you quote duran?

    He was an infamous quitter who lost his nerve and destroyed his own reputation
     
  13. Mark Dunham

    Mark Dunham Well-Known Member Full Member

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    why would I participate in your poll?

    could Floyd outpoint a washed up and unmotivated Hagler where Leonard failed?

    To put it bluntly; whatever Leonard did, Floyd did better
     
  14. ThatOne

    ThatOne Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I quoted Duran because those were his thoughts on the fight. Duran was a quitter. He didn't like being humiliated. I don't think he was a coward though nor do I think Hagler was.
     
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  15. ThatOne

    ThatOne Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You keep saying Leonard failed but the judges and the punch stats indicate Leonard succeeded. Facts don't care about your feelings.
     
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