Just to play devil's advocate, was Don King really this evil garbage?

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  1. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    Wow, Jonathan Guidry said he's the greatest guy ever? Never mind, I take back everything I said. Don King all the way! AMERICA BABY WOOHOO GETTIN AWAY WITH MURDER AND THEFT ALL RIIIIIIIGHT!
     
  2. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What's wrong with Johathan Guidry? Did Don King help his career or not? Is EVIL Don King destroying the career Jonathan Guidry could've had if King hadn't gotten his tentacles into him?

    Or is King just giving him one opportunity after another?

    Name some names. 10 would be nice.
     
  3. Saad54

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    The World Boxing Council has stripped Bobby Chacon of... - UPI Archives
    King had Jose Suliman in his pocket

    The WBC broke it's own rules when it withdrew sanction from the second Chacon/Boza fight when Don King wanted Hector Camacho to get the first shot at Chacon despite the fact Boza had been the number 1 contender for some time. Yes, the WBC stripped the champion for fighting the number 1 contender.
     
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  4. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    Your logic amuses me. If Don King only ruined the lives of 9 people, would he be morally justifiable?

    Also, I literally said who he's screwed over numerous times in this thread. Literally go to page 1-2. I know you're going to ignore this and say 'b-but name 10 and I'll name 20 he helped!' as if I'm supposed to give a **** (it doesn't matter who he's helped, he's still ruined numerous lives). So let's see:

    He THREATENED the lives of Larry Holmes, Meldrick Taylor and who knows how many others with his shady ass mob connections. He STOLE (literally settled in court numerous times) from Holmes, Taylor, Norris, Witherspoon (oh sorry, he only stole from a few people so it's morally justifiable). He MURDERED someone by stomping on their ****ing head numerous times and nearly shooting them if not for police intervention (for 600 dollars lmao).

    Oh, he also had numerous mob connections like with John Gotti and Michael Franzese. Here's more on that:

    'An undercover F.B.I. agent posed as a wealthy drug dealer, approached King with the hopes of laundering money through his boxing promotion company. In their first meeting, he was ushered into King's office by a capo in the Colombo crime family. The agent later met with a member of the Genovese family who said of King,"[he's] with us."'

    (This FBI agent was definitely paid off by Jack Newfeld amiright? Or no, maybe he doesn't remember correctly like the police officer!)

    You can go ahead and name your fighters that love Don King. Name 50 for all I care, it still won't take away from the fact that he screwed over and ****ed up the lives of many people.
     
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  5. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    So everyone is soft for caring about the tremendous harm King caused.
    You were told again that you were given many names-& I cut & pasted 4 more points you ignored.
    On you really think you are "tougher" than us for being a King apologist?

    Almost everyone is wrong?
    Also it is irrational to assume someone with Tremendous Power who is documented to have robbed & cheated some of the most powerful names in boxing-Ali, Holmes, abandoning Frazier, Tyson...

    Did not cheat MANY MORE.
    Do you not know that statistics show robbers & rapists are usually not caught for a while?
    They normally commit many more crimes than we know about or that they are even ACCUSED of.

    And those folks do not have the Power of Retribution-either destroying a boxing career, or as you were just told, possible violence against them or family members.
    But I guess you think Holmes is ALSO "soft", even if a Billion times more courageous than...

    Use your imagination.
     
  6. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    There's no point in arguing with this man, he will use any form of mental gymnastics he knows to prove to himself that Don King isn't a POS.
     
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  7. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I know, & it is sad because he is certainly intelligent.
    But it is good to have the rebuttals out there on the record to deter any other apologists!

    When even Janitor says he is a sociopath, you know we are talkin' about not just a petty mobster...
    But an Authentic Monster.

    :firedevil:
     
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  8. Dubblechin

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    Here are 10 more who he promoted who he never cheated (I'm up to 20):

    *Jorge Ahumada
    * Milton McCrory
    * Colin Jones
    * Bruce Curry
    * Floyd Mayweather Sr.
    * Roger Mayweather
    * Sugar Ray Seales
    * Ronnie Harris
    * Bobby 'Boogaloo' Watts
    * Saoul Mamby

    Name 10 he cheated.
     
  9. Fogger

    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    Just curious, how do you know he didn't cheat them?
     
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  10. Melankomas

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    He doesn't. For all we know, King could've used his mob connections to threaten them into silence.
     
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  11. Dubblechin

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    He's a boxing promoter. Every boxing promoter has worked with fighters who have claimed they've been cheated in some way.

    You guys seem to have locked on to a handful, and assume the worst about the others, because you read a Hatchet Job book from 30 years ago that you can only seem to quote.

    Here's another 10:

    * Ruben Castillo
    * Juan LaPorte
    * Salvador Sanchez
    * Wilfred Benitez
    * Jerry Quarry
    * Carlos Palomino
    * Mike Rossman
    * Mustafa Hamsho
    * Alan Minter
    * Andy 'Hawk' Price

    I can do this all day.

    Name everyone Don King cheated. Name 20. Or 10.
     
  12. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Good Lord. So Don King threatened Colin Jones with his mob connections to remain silent?

    That's pathetic. That's all you've got? Is it because they didn't name 10 people in your Jack Newfield book?

    I'm sure Don King has Al Capone and John Gotti on speed dial to keep Jonathan Guidry quiet as about how he's ruining his career by plucking him out of obscurity and wedging him into today's title picture.
     
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  13. Dubblechin

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    "Listen Soon Hyun Chang, keep quiet, ya hear? OR I'll sick my mob guys on ya."

    Were King's mob guys who tossed Carlos Monzon's wife off the balcony? (Probably. Nobody said they didn't. I mean, how could we know?)
     
  14. Melankomas

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    I find it amusing how you're accusing me of getting all of my information from Jack Newfeld, who I literally only found out existed through your schizophrenic rants about him on this thread. Keep it up!
     
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  15. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You're the one who posted his video.