Vasiliy Lomanchenko has never avenged a loss and probably won't against Haney...how does this affect

Lmfao.. why is there always a ****ing excuse when Loma loses.

 

Not his fault that both Salido and Lopez refused to give him rematches. It actually speaks highly of his unique talent that they both feared he would successfully avenge his losses.

 

Only because Lomachenkova insisted that the fight contacts did not include rematch clauses. He certainly wasn’t prepared to give either of them a rematch if he won, why should they?

 

It's not an excuse it's a fact Salido was a frigging Welterweight vs Lomachenko, he didn't even bother to make weight he was 20+ pounds over the Featherweight limit. Technically the fight shouldn't of even gone ahead that's why Salido was stripped of his title. Finally just go search on YouTube, and see how many low blows Salido landed on Lomachenko. How Salido was allowed to get away it, is only down to corruption and incompetence from a biased referee. It's got nothing to do with me making excuses for Lomachenko, it's a fact it was heavily tainted win for Salido.

As for Lopez yes Lomachenko had a legit shoulder injury that's a fact also, but I'm not making excuses for Lomachenko. He didn't have to fight the fight and could of pulled out. He also took too long to get going vs Lopez again that's on him.

 

Are you new to boxing? Salido wasn’t 20 pounds over the featherweight limit. You’re either new to boxing or straight delusional. Salido weighed in at 128 1/4. That’s 2 pounds and a 1/4 over the limit.

As for the injury, Teo claimed to have a foot injury after too. That’s a fact right? So Loma losing to an injured Teo is a facts. Anymore excuses you got for Loma losing?

 

I see Loma's shoulder issue gets bought up & more importantly for the most part generally gets acceptance all around as a legitimate & major factor concerning his loss & overall performance,

However another named fighter who had an even more of a extended issue with his shoulder injury & being more thoroughly documented gets constantly ignored, Sometimes never brought up at all as a factor especially when it concerns to a change of the result of his fight & result,

Funny isn't it.

 

I felt Teo only mentioned his foot suddenly in retaliation after overhearing Loma mention his shoulder to combat it the other way around inorder for others to give him full credit for his win, you could tell.

 

If someone doesn't want to rematch you, it's actually very hard to fight them and avenge the loss, believe it or not.
You see, boxing is a sport where two fighters fight.
And they both have to agree to fight, as they are not actually slaves, but have freedom of choice in the matter.
You're clearly super smart, so think about that a little and you might see the problem with Lomachenko not being able to avenge his losses even though someone with his pride and record would clearly want to as much as anybody.

As a reference, you could look at the Pac KO loss to Marquez, where Pac desperately wanted to avenge that but Marquez wouldn't accept even a huge paycheck because he wanted to keep that win unavenged. That's where that rule about two fighters needing to be in the ring for the fight to take place comes into effect.

 

"Lomachenko lost a controversial split decision to a fighter that failed to make weight (and thereby vacated his belt) who weighed, post weigh-in, 147 lbs., 21 pounds over the fight limit."

So no i'm not new to boxing and i always do my research, maybe you need to do the same in future. There isn't no excuse Salido came into the fight as a Welterweight, and had a very biased referee ignoring 100s of low blows. So tell me exactly what part of this isn't true ? how is it an excuse ? so your telling me it's ok for a fighter to come into the ring as a Welterweight at the Featherweight division ? and having a biased referee ignore countless fouls ? it's nothing to do with liking or disliking Lomachenko, the fact is it was a very unfair fight if your looking at it in an unbiased manner.

As for Lopez as i said i've not made any excuses, i pointed out Lomachenko had a legitimate shoulder injury which is a fact. But it's on him for not pulling out of the fight, and it's on him for waiting too long to get into the fight and losing a decision. So what part of my post is delusional exactly ? because i'm actually baffled.

 

Both Salido and Lopez refused to have a rematch. Tells you all you need to know.

 

There is no reason to knock on Lomas resume and legacy. He always fought the best opponents and he was always game even in defeat.

He's a small guy for 130 or even 135 and he's basically facing Welterweights now who are cutting down to 135.

Weight classes are there for a reason.

 

I don't get the point of what you're quoting? Yes, a fighter can blow up to any weight they want unless there's something in their contract that sets a rehydration limit or they fight for the IBF title which only lets a fighter go 10 pounds over.

The facts are salido was 2 1/4 pounds over the featherweight limit, not "21". I have to assume you're new to boxing or just googling stuff and weren't around during that time.

Also dirty boxing is part of pro boxing. Just like Loma was headbutting the **** out of Teo during their fight and opened up a cut, no mention of that right? Loma fought dirty and sitll lost.

Yeah, Loma was "injured', that's a "fact". Are you also going to acknowledge Teo being injured as a fact?

 

First off stop assuming stuff and insulting me by saying "I'm new to boxing" i can assure you i've seen 1000s of fights from all different eras and know plenty.

Secondly Salido was stripped of his belt which means he had no intentions of making the weight, and basically took liberties coming into the ring as a Welterweight. Yes i know all fighters rehydrate and come into the ring heavier but 21 pounds ? like come off it you know damn well Salido took liberties. It was a Welterweight vs a Featherweight come fight night, with a highly biased referee allowing Salido to get away with 100s of low blows, and it's not my opinion regarding these fouls there's a video for everyone to see the fouls. With no point deductions or warnings BTW, so yes it's fair to say it was a very unfair fight by anyone who looks at it in an unbiased manner.

Yes i'm aware that dirty boxing happens in boxing, but there's a difference between the odd foul. And 100s of low blows without any point deductions or warnings.

Well if there's evidence of it sure but i feel like Lopez only said that in retaliation to Lomachenko's shoulder injury, we do actually have evidence of Lomachenko undergoing shoulder surgery. Is there any medical facts to back up Lopez's claim ?

 

You need to stop acting like you knew Salido weighed in at 128 1/4 and not 147.

And it shows you’re a new boxing fan by saying Salido was a welterweight. What WW fights at 147 on fight night?

Also odd foul you mean like Loma deliberately head hitting Teo and causing a nasty cut?

Injured Teo beat Loma who cheated against him and that’s a fact!

 

Fully agree with this. He can’t be mad he was denied when he didn’t want them either. Doesn’t absolve Salido and Lopez from blame either though. It’s clear that neither guy was confident in winning again.