Prime Kovalev vs Artur Beterbiev

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by monaim, Feb 1, 2023.


Whos better

  1. Kova

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  2. AB

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  1. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    I don’t think you understand that AB will struggle against a master boxer with great defence. He is great in this era but he is far from impregnable.
     
  2. kirk

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    Ya like I said, we rate them differently :lol:

    Bivol might beat 39 year old AB, sure.

    Prime for prime AB wins imo.

    In fact, now that you mention Bivol, he beats Ward to.

    AB > Bivol > Ward > Kovalev.
     
  3. African Cobra

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    I think Ward beats them both, he may be to much man for Bivol who does nothing better than Ward who is better than him on the inside.
     
  4. dinovelvet

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    Tough one to call. Yarde checked Arthur a fair few times with a left hook and Johnson stun locked him with one.

    Kovalev at his best had a very nasty and underrated left hook. Combine the jab and right hand and he has the tools to beat Beterbiev
     
  5. kirk

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    I dont see anything Ive said that suggests I dont think AB would struggle with a master boxer. But there are nuances to that.

    AB would struggle against certain master boxers, not all master boxers.

    Those master boxers will still need to have specific physical properties to go along with their skillsets.

    Ward is a master boxer but his physical properties dont match up well with AB.

    So ultimately, no, I understand quite well that AB is not impregnable, and that he is beatable by an elite boxer.

    Just not Ward or Kovalev.
     
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  6. kirk

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    Thats how I see it as well.
     
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  7. African Cobra

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    His physical properties don’t have to match they just have to be enough. Do you think Floyd as strong and fit as he is, was more powerful than Canelo? Of course not but the different in class was shown or the night. AB does not have the tools or skills for Ward who would beat him up because he is an elite boxer. Ward would work him out and flip the script on him. Did it so many times against great fighters. Skills win fights not power.
     
  8. ellerbe

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    Prime Bivol vs Prime Kovalev would have been some masterclass boxing.
     
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  9. African Cobra

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    Yes
     
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  10. kirk

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    Ya it would.
     
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  11. tinman

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    Canelo and Floyd fought at 152 pounds. 175 and up is the big boys. Power and strength can go a long way at 175.
     
  12. ArseBandit

    ArseBandit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Right because robberies don't happen. Boxing is completely straight and the right man always wins.

    I care about what I see happen live, and apart from people with obvious bias, Kovalev clearly won that fight.
     
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  13. African Cobra

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    Ward is a special elite boxer and there is a reason he never lost. A come forward destroyer cannot beat Ward. He would disarm AB and paint his face.
     
  14. kirk

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    I'm not talking about power.

    Also, Mayweather vs Canelo is not an apt comparison with AB vs Ward.

    I get that they don't have to match, just be enough. That's my point. They won't be.
     
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  15. African Cobra

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    Another mistake you make is how physically strong Ward. Because of his skills like Floyd people are shocked by his physical strength.