David Haye v Joe Frazier

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  1. BoxingViewer

    BoxingViewer Active Member Full Member

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    who wins this one?
     
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  2. 40ozoe

    40ozoe Member Full Member

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    Haye sort of doesn't belong in any comparisons like these.

    The fellow ran from Valuev for 12 rounds. Same with Wladimir. He did ko washed up Monte Barret who never rose that high, he did ko the only hw champion in history to lose hw titles to two former middleweights, after those events had taken place and he did have a very impressive performance vs Chisora. The problem with this is that there is no consistency or really big achievements except for Chisora whose number he simply may have had.

    Also at CW it's hit and miss, koing Enzo and getting koed by lhw Thompson.
     
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    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    You don’t need to make this match up. Frazier goes through him like a hot knife through butter. Very few heavyweights can beat peak Frazier.
     
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    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

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    This was a funny one. Any version of Joe smokes any version of Haye.
     
  5. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    I wouldn't pick Haye but wouldn't totally write him off given his sneaky style.
     
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    Guerra Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Frazier was 205 lbs on same day weigh inns vs Ali.
    He's basically a cruiser in match ups vs current fighters.
    Its too easy to write Haye off here thinking those left hooks will easily land and ko hom since Frazier is more legendary
     
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    reckless Active Member Full Member

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    Well what did you expect Haye to do against Valuev? he was 10 inches shorter and 100lbs lighter. He fought smartly. On the other hand Frazier got bulldozed by GIANT 6'3 218lbs Foreman.
    Can you imagine Frazier vs Valuev, with Frazier charging in, it would be carnage.
     
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  8. Guerra

    Guerra Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Valuev couldnt even fight. Was just big. Frazier easily ud's him.
     
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    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pretty simple.
    Chisora is a bigger, stronger, tougher version of Frazier.
    Haye destroyed him as soon as he landed.
    HW Haye would wipe out Frazier easily. Haye is much bigger and hits way harder and is also more skilled.
    I detest Haye, but I also detest ridiculous Murican mythology involving Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Tyson etc.
     
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    Pretty wrong: Chisora is nothing like Frazier in terms of ring intelligence, technique, cardio and punching power. Just bigger, stronger and with a harder head.
     
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    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    Frazier knocks him out round 8
     
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    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    Haye isn’t big. Pumped up. About 10lbs heavier than Frazier with bubble muscles.
     
  13. 40ozoe

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    He didn't fight. Should really have been disqualified for not fighting. Look at Holyfield vs Valuev. That's what Haye was supposed to do.
     
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    This. Wasn’t Holyfield 50
     
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    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    I like Haye but in this match up he literally has no chance and it won’t be pretty to watch either. He is ready made to order for Frazier.
     
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