When Fury bodybags usyk

I saw this post much earlier and it’s changed significantly . How many times you edit it you fat freak? Lol

 

He will get credit from most in the boxing community, but won't get much on these forums. Usyk will be too old, too small, affected by the war etc

But tbf if Fury loses it will be because he isn't 'prime anymore' and the 'drink finally caught up with him'....on the forums anyway.

So, I guess it depends on where you are expecting this credit to come from.

 

Why does there need to be an ‘excuse’ from either side?

Despite the bravado, both respect each other. Fury has always said if he’s defeated he will accept it graciously.

 

What has Usyk actually been doing in & for the war?
I like & admire him, what is the story?

 

No one here will give Fury credit, Usyk fans (I really mean bitter AJ fans) will bring up the war and the size difference and cry "boar meat".

I will just continue to read and laugh at the all emotional damage Fury continues to cause these poor people.
Rent free!

 

Either fighter should get Full Credit: IF it is a fair fight.
That is, not like Ali vs. Frazier 2, or Wlad vs. Povetkin.

The referee has to enforce the rules: one fighter cannot constantly violate them by hanging on, clinching, especially pulling the other man down.
We know who is exponentially more likely to do this based upon history & a size & body fat advantage.

As long as Fury wins-& it could easily go either way-without these illegal tactics, he should get Full Credit.
Because Frazier's team successfully lobbied to have a referee not allow 12 rounds of allegedly 133 clinches & pulling like their previous fight, Ali was warned twice early, so it was a Fair Fight.

And we got an all time, one of the best ever classics-where if Futch did not force Frazier to quit first before the last round, Ali may have momentarily..Still unclear if this last part was true.

 

We will watch an illegal tactics demonstration from Fury. Lots of clinching, elbows, headbutts, leanings etc. It will be like an MMA fight. Ngannou will be intimidated.

 

I’m very glad someone brought up the Ali-Frazier rivalry. To me, although Ali was officially declared the winner of two of their bouts, he never actually defeated Joe.

 

You have great, Spirited & detailed posts, but I can be forgiven for thinking that with your avatar you betray some bias lol!

Dunno what that 'lill guy above is doing, but they have some crazy emoji options here...

The second fight, absolutely. Frazier got a small, puzzling break in round 2, but not likely fight determining.
Ali was allowed so much of a hug-fest-& puling down anyone's head often is tiring, especially by a man his size.

But in Manilla, Ali was clearly ahead, & by the rules if Futch made Frazier quit by calling it, that's it.
It is pretty unlikely that Frazier could have turned anything around given how recent rounds had gone.

I am just unsure if it is true that Ali would have quit-he made similar very understandable noises when blinded by a substance against Liston, but Dundee & he had that dance of the latter pushing Ali...
Anyway that was a legitimate win by Ali.
Frazier had an amazing effort-as a smaller swarmer he peaked earlier, & although had gotten lazy in recent fights, he was all in against ALi-although we found out later, legally blind!

Instead of changing the eye he covered in exams of his sight, he would just use the other hand.

 

NO

They will claim Usyk was too small, old and a cruiserweight midget who only beat a bodybuilder and Fury's sparring toy Chisora - Which is true

The issue arises with people having a lack of imagination thinking Usyk is going to outbox Fury in greater effect to what Cunningham achieved which is hilarious. All Fury needs to do is establish a jab, Usyk's head movement is good but it's nothing special is passive and timable and Fury feints like a crack demon.

meanwhile usyk's fients will be worthless. He lead control will be fairly useless against Fury. His physical pressure which is what he always has been as a fighter will be non existent. What is he going to do jib jab around like an amateur for 12 rounds which is the only gameplan he can use to win...no chance. Fury is going to zap him with the first 1,2 he lands and grab hold of him. Big Momma Fury is coming...

Usyk stands a chance only if Fury comes off form and even then it's still a tough fight. If Fury is firing on all cylinders it's a brutal blow out.

Regardless of what people think - You have to understand one thing and one thing only - Fury is physically x2 maybe even 3x the physical force that AJ & Chisora are IGNORNING all the other aspects mental and boxing skill wise.

It will be like Lennox's controlled win over Holyfield but a little more high paced with subtle beautiful boxing from both with is utterly levels ahead of anything people are used to seeing.

 

The haters will always hate and bring out any excuse to justify their agendas.

Happens all over the forum with nearly every champion.

 

You write a lot of nonsense as usual, mate, but for what it's worth, I'll never claim Fury is too big. He is not. He is 6'7 (the 6'9 is a lie for marketing purposes of course, always have been, just like Canelo is not 5'9 or Mike Tyson was never 5'11.5) with around 245-250 lbs an ideal BW without the fat. Ivan Dychko, who has been a regular sparring partner for Usyk, is bigger than that. And just like Fury said: he is not much bigger than Joshua and if Joshua wasn't too big for Usyk, why would he be. In any case, we had fighters like David Tua at HW who had no problems with always fighting bigger guys. Similarly, Usyk is very well used to fighting taller and heavier guys. He had almost 400 amateur fights, he've seen, fought and beat all sizes of fighters.

If Fury defeats him without any controversy ( = blatantly excessive clinching/leaning without the referee doing anything about it, corrupt judges' scorecards etc.), I'll have no problem giving credit to the ogre. Of course, it's all academic, because Fury will never man up to face Usyk, but just for the record, I wanted to mention it.

 

Nice to see your Insanely Biased Hero Worship has not abated.
Whatever is likely to happen or DOES happen you will shill for Fury.
I prefer the man who has exponentially more fights, victories, a much harder & more consistent trainer, without any hateful or bigoted past.

But it sounds like you are preparing an excuse; if you determine Fury is "off".
Unless one fighter gets away with a fair amount of cheating & fouls, if Usyk wins, will you be Big enough to admit the better man won?

Usyk stands a chance only if Fury comes off form and even then it's still a tough fight. If Fury is firing on all cylinders it's a brutal blow out.

Regardless of what people think - You have to understand one thing and one thing only - Fury is physically x2 maybe even 3x the physical force that AJ & Chisora are IGNORNING all the other aspects mental and boxing skill wise.

 

EXCELLENT post.
Although I do believe Fury will fight Usyk due to public pressure & Ego.

 

I respect whatever you want to believe

Listen I really like Usyk., REALLY like him. People think I'm blindly biased but I've analysed this bout enough and funnily enough it's actually easier to predict than say a Wilder who always has an overpowered missile to level the playing field. Usyk just isn't cut for Fury.

He will be clinched though, HW boxing. His clinch defence allows him to escape but it's not a safe escape and he is more open to be leant on. Usyk is smart he knows this box is in the feet he won't be able to rest and choose the pace though.