Who beats Greb at middleweight?

Hi Buddy.
I am not on board with all the talk of " no footage " of which a lot of posters are citing, I mean there is no footage of a Roman army in battle, but we know they were almost unbeatable, there is no footage of the battle of Rorke's Drift, but we know the defenders fought against huge odds and were victorious, how ? because we have the written word, there is scripture, all the way back to Homer, Plato, deeds have been put to print for posterity ( thankfully ) how do we know Greb was a great fighter, because people have written about him, journalists, fellow boxers, his peers, we are all on this planet for a very short time, is all we believe only contained in what we personally witness, are we to dismiss all the writings from scholars, and the common man come to that, because there is no " footage " next you will be saying that Santa Claus doesn't exist, because of no " footage " C,mon.....
stay safe amigo.

 

ANY fighter can be beaten by a certain style on the night.

Even more modern day fighters have troubled fighters and won fights with limited technique.

Look at some of Calzaghe’s scrappy affairs, where he won on speed and volume, with poor technique.

You’re assumption is based purely on your ignorance.

 

Great post.

 

Thanks buddy, appreciate the nod.
chat soon.

 

I think it's hard to say any of the top 10 middleweights would have definitely beaten Harry Greb.

Although we don't have footage, we do have footage of the opponents he beat, and he has beaten some Greats in the middleweight and Light heavyweight division.

Harry fought all sizes and all colors and feared no man.

He was not given the wins he deserved over Tunney and Flowers and others, and he was blind for the Flowers fights.

I pick Harry over Monzon and Hagler and would be a tough match for SRR.

Hard for me based on resume not to rate Greb number 1 at 160.

 

I am not saying that he was beatable.

I am saying that his resume bears the scars of his hectic schedule, and also the politics of the era.

 

Would this year be the one he got a newspaper "decision" over Flowers?

These are some other accounts of the fight. Seems Greb went 0-3 with Tiger Flowers .Also read the other reports and how they describe a man like Flowers , then tell me the judging was fair and honest in that time for men like Flowers.

TIGER TROUNCES GREB
And Dick Meade, its sports editor in reviewing the melee which he awarded to Flowers by a wide margin said:
Tiger Flowers forced Harry Greb to his utmost to keep himself from being annihilated. It was the picture of the title-holder at his best against an opponent his superior in this particular engagement. George Bulford, veteran sports editor of the Toledo Blade wrote:

Gave Greb Boxing Lesson
Flowers took seven of the ten rounds from Greb, winning the popular decision beyond all question of doubt.

https://boxrec.com/wiki/index.php/Harry_Greb_vs._Tiger_Flowers_(1st_meeting)

 

Nobody says that.

 

Nobody thinks that.

People at the time who saw the fight in the flesh said Greb was close to "annihilation" . A Newspaper decision means the win went to the man the media wanted to win.

 

You kind of have to either accept the official result for both men, or try to read between the lines for both men.

 

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