Canelo vs Oscar De la Hoya, who ranks higher?

Jimmi Bredhal was his first world title victory at 130 pounds. MS is correct.

 

Think is a lot of those names on his resume are dudes smaller than him. Canelo's resume from 160 and up are dudes who are all bigger than him which makes it that much more impressive.

GGG
Jacobs
Plant
Saunders
Smith(who I would never have thought he'd go up in weight and beat)
Kovalev

His 154 wins are less impressive to me because these guys are the same size as him.

 

Don’t start lying because he lost to Mosley twice and Trinidad. I am merely saying Mexicans will rank Canelo higher and deservedly so in my opinion over the degenerate De La Hoya.

 

"Badly exposed" by Bivol ?

Have a day off. He was up at Light Heavy.

 

Well Bivol did not beat him with physicality but with skills.

 

He did beat them? Or do you also feel that korean beat up rjj at the olympics cause the judges said so?

Fair enough they prefer Canelo of course.

 

The fact is Roy and Floyd were not awarded the gold medals at the Olympics. I scored the wins for Mosley and Trinidad in their favour over De LaHoya. I could say Pernell Whittaker and Ike Quartey deserved the victories over De La Hoya but fact is they were not awarded them. I live with reality and facts.

 

That was never Canelo's first rodeo at 175. He fought Kov and won 2.5 years earlier.

 

Yeah definitely, was going to mention the same thing, i felt he could have done so much more.

 

Those were gights that could have gone either way like Floyd vs Castillo 1.
Acting like Oscar lost vs Tito and Mosley in the second fight is like saying Bradley clearly beat Pac the first time or Chavez deserved that draw vs Pernell.
In similair fashion Oscar clearly lost vs Sturm despite what his record says.
Those were not close fights where you coukd argue the resuld was fair.
It was as clear as bothh AJ vs Usyk fights.

 

Canelo for me. Oscar was never top p4p and lost his biggest matches against the best of his era. Popularity wise Oscar might be ahead though

 

I know Bradley beat Pacquiao the first fight that is quite clear to me because I scored it for Bradley. Fights are won by what happens in the ring not reputation.

 

In 1 years span Oscar beat against 96-1-1(Should be 96-2) Julio Cesar Chavez with him avenging that only official loss. Miguel Angel Gonzales who was undefeated and fresh off a 4 year reign as the WBC LW champion. And Pernell Whitaker whom was undefeated and P4P #2. That year alone beats anything Canelo has done in his career. Yes Oscar lost a lot of big fights but let’s not act like there is even a slight comparison with their level of competition. Yes Oscar is an idiot but let’s not disrespect his career either.

 

May not be his first rodeo at 175 but certainly not his natural weight class.

 

DLH lost to Mosley twice in razor close fights, lost to BHop at 160, then Floyd and Manny. His losses were all against HOF fighters and the BHop fight especially shouldve never happened tbh. DLH had a case for a draw against Floyd too.

Canelo lost to Floyd, GGG, and Bivol and shouldve got draws in GGG2 and Lara. Canelo is also a known PED cheat even if it was only once.

DLH beat the boogeyman in Trinidad, Vargas, Sturm, Quartey, JCC Sr, Pernell, Mayorga, Camacho, and took 0's from Trinidad, Pernell, Quartey, and Genaro Hernandez.

Canelo beat Trout, Mosley, Cotto, Kovalev (at 175), and unified SMW to beat Smith, Plant, and BJS. He also finally cleanly beat geriatric GGG who somehow was coming on in the later rounds.

DLH had a far better career and is ranked well ahead of Canelo ATG-wise