Fury and Arum Holding Up Fury-Usyk, They Don't Think Usyk Deserves 50%

Some of your data is actually surprising in regards to Usyk selling anything. But let's keep in mind PPV in UK is like $20 while in US its $75.

Also, Fury Wilder 2 and 3 both did 800-850k buys which absolutely clowns anything Usyk has done (PPV wise).

In addition to Fury being lineal champ as well as holding 3/4 belts...Fury is the A side far and away.

If Usyk is demanding 50% he is effectively ducking the fight.

 

I respect your opinon, and I have always said for the good of the sport and for sake of skill, Usyk deserves 50%. But thats just not how it works in this financially incentivised boxing world.

[url]https://www.totalsportal.com/boxing/chisora-vs-usyk-purse/[/url]
From the link -
29 Oct 2020 — Chisora is set to clear around £6900000 from his fight against Oleksandr Usyk who himself will pocket as much as £2200000.

I reiterate, Usyk had to BEAT AJ just to get 50% in the rematch. It was AJ in that scenario that sold the tickets, not Usyk. As I've mentioned in the past, I'm not even sure Usyk would have the majority of fans at Wembley if he fought Whyte. So to say he deserevs 50% against Fury from a financial standpoint is beyond ridiculous.

 

I came to terms with the finances of boxing years ago. Before I thought whoever won the fight deserved the bigger share. Funding the events, putting butts in seats, and getting eyeballs to view the screen are what making boxing work at the end of the day. Whoever can bring in the larger fan base deserves the lion share. Fury is the lineal champ and brings in the eyeballs and thus deserves the bigger share. However Usyk beat Fury's rival and owns the majority of the belts. This is going to be a financial success regardless of the split. Usyk deserves no less than 40% and I'd even argue 45%.

 

Usyk has already got gifted that easy Saudi money he won't deny a 60:40 deal. Does anyone really believe this Ukrainians will turn down 60:40?

Which is $10-15m guaranteed for Usyk.

Sure the Saudi money was lovely but even Usyk knows that was a gift.

Usyk has made pennies his entire career and now is making big bucks, one fight away from retirement AND has always stated that money isn't his motive....so why wouldn't he accept 60:40

USYK NOT ACCEPTING 60:40 IS WORSE THAN FURY NOT GIVING HIM 50:50! It's basic business.

 

Hell no! What he lacks in drawing power he more than makes up with his talent and many great accomplishments. 55-45 in favor of Fury @ Wembley would be fair imo, or 60-40 in favor of the winner. That would add more spice to the fight.

 

yeah he is also a proven steroid cheat which is why he " retired" and lost the belts he had.

 

Money split is about viewers you draw in, not what you’ve done in the ring. I do think there is a case for 55-45.

 

The Saudi's not paying up for this bout and it going to Wembley would show a lot about their strategy of buying big sports. Really unexpected I thought they'd be all over it.

Would be great at Wembley. Deserving atmosphere for a GOAT fight.

 

Don’t act like Fury is on Maywather or Canelo’s level of drawing viewers. He’s had plenty of dud fights with not a lot of fanfare. It takes two to tango. Plus there’s the added excitement of both of them being undefeated and fighting for the ultimate crown in heavyweight boxing. 55-45 should be doable if the fight takes place in the UK. That’s the only fair number.

 

Well you're all going to know by the end of this week if it's happening or not, & fk fury if he scuppers it

 

Sure thing, mate. Because it is Usyk who has a long track record of back-and-forths about money, and it is Fury who aims for the biggest possible purse in order to aid his home country's war efforts with the money against an ongoing invasion.

 

Your numbers are slightly off, but I take your point that Wilder v Fury sold more in America. Though isn't that to be expected? However, you'll have to explain the connection to Fury deserving more money in a UK based fight. For example wasn't Fury v Whyte a flop on ESPN? Wouldn't that show Fury doesn't bring the US audience, himself?

Also, I didn't mention this earlier as it wasn't at heavyweight, but Usyk also did 500,000 PPV in the UK against Tony Bellew. So yet again this shows UK viewers will pay to watch USYK.

Fury being Lineal is arguable, but I won't get into that here. I am happy to go along with most people believe he is Lineal, so therefore he is effectively Lineal in terms of marketing. Also, you probably made a typo, but Fury holds 1 belt. Usyk holds 3 of 4 belts, Usyk is also Ring champion and widely considered P4P#1 or 2.

Nothing really points to Fury being the A-side in the UK. Not his UK PPV record, not his resume, not the title he holds. If the fight doesn't happen because of Fury's demands, people won't blame Usyk.

 

I understand what you are saying, but Usyk's purses are clearly on an upward trajectory and he is the champion.

Also the trouble is the vast majority of revenue comes from PPV and all but one of Fury's UK PPV's have sold less than when Usyk fought Tony Bellew...

That's the long and short of it: Fury doesn't sell on his own, so he is not warranting any divergence from 50-50 in an undisputed fight. He can face Usyk or he can continue driving his sales into the floor with fights no one wants to see. Or, maybe he'll break 500k when he fights Wilder for a 4th time...

 

Usyks purse clearly are on an upward trajectory, he went from roughly 30% purse for Chisora, roughly 30% for AJ 1, the 50% for AJ 2... Considering the oppopnents and the results, what boxer on this earth wouldnt have an upward trajectory? I'd love to know.

He (Usyk) is a champion, of this we can agree. But as I've said many a time, does anyone really think Fury cares about the belts that were stripped of him?? More than money or fame???

Tony Bellew was very popular post Haye, so much so he earned 4mil against Usyk's 1mil from their encounter. Hell, Bellew even earned 2.8mil against David Haye!. Some A side this Usyk fella eh.

None of that matters. In the UK, Usyk sells less and that really is the long and short of it.

Usyk is one of my favourite boxers, but if he walks at 40%, we'll see him waddle.