Prime Kovalev vs Artur Beterbiev

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Whos better

  1. Kova

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  2. AB

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  1. Tibbo

    Tibbo New Member banned Full Member

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    Great fight with a prime Kova to come out on top.
     
  2. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Kovalev faced Beterbiev TWICE as an amateur and lost both times.
     
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  3. slash

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    Didn't Kovalev take a "payday" against Canelo?

    Beterbiev, all day long.
     
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  4. bluebird

    bluebird Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Beterbiev cracks Kovalev chin inside 5
     
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  5. Anima

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    I dont think Kovalev would be able to avoid ABs shots.. He's more technical behind that gorgeous jab.. he'll win most rounds but would be stopped.
     
  6. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    Robbed were we because “Mr Have Gloves, Won’t Travel Zero Personality Ward,” took his soul. What was the Son of God supposed to do let the the racist devil win. Maybe King Arthur Beterbiev would have beaten KrusherKovalev at his peak but we shall never know but one thing we do know like ABC is that Ward beat Kovalev and owned him.
     
  7. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The Kovalev that beat Bernard and Cleverly would beat Beterbiev
     
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  8. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    You really want to go through this all again with me? :lol:

    The fact you not only worship at the altar of corruption but you also worship at the altar of fighters like Floyd, Haney, Twink, and Claressa whilst crying about Kovalev being racist could only be lost on someone like you :lol:
     
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  9. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    I take issue with anyone saying Kovalev was robbed when he clearly was not. He was a formidable undefeated champion until he met SOG Andre Ward. The devil cannot flourish in the sight of God or his Son. Yes the first fight was close but SOG prevailed.
    Please correct me for clarification sake, are people like I wrong to point out the racist comments Kovalev has made? I am certainly not forcing anyone to like Floyd, Haney, Twink and Claressa after all everyone is entitle£ to their taste. What do Floyd, Tank, Haney , Tank and Dre have in common? They are all undefeated.

    Let me let you into a secret I used to like Kovalev until I found out about his racism but I never denied he was a great fighter. Anyway if you choose to condone what’s wrong and deplorable that’s on you not me. No irony lost on me. Cheers.
     
  10. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    He was robbed and this is the worldwide general consensus just as GGG vs Clenelo I is widely considered a massive robbery by fans across the globe. You chose to ignore this even though you know damn well it's true because you don't believe certain fighters deserve a fair shake.

    No they're not wrong just like they're not wrong to point out the ones the fighters I mentioned made. The difference is you not only don't have the slightest problem with them for their racist comments you literally worship at their altar
     
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  11. Serge

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    I don't see either going 3-0 if they fought each three times. They're just too talented and freakishly powerful.

    Kovalev was 26 when he turned pro and he didn't win a world title until he was 30. He toiled in obscurity and was boxing for no paycheck for the first three years of his career because no major promoter would sign him

    And Beterbiev didn't turn pro until he was 28.5 years old and he didn't win his first world title until 2 months before his 33rd birthday which is crazy when you factor in everything he has achieved and the numerous long bouts of inactivity which have plagued his career

    We only saw the best of them in their 30s. Imagine how much more they would've achieved had we got to see them in the pros when they were in their 20s too?


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  12. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    I only worship at the altar of God not man so get that right since you choose to make this personal. Like I have always said both you and everyone else is entitled to their opinions as to who they believe should have been awarded a points verdict but ultimately it’s the judges decision that is official and counts. People can bleat out and cry about it but it’s a big stretch to say it was a robbery or crime and corruption without a shred of evidence that the judges were paid. I don’t ignore anything because I scored those fights for Ward and Canelo and proudly so. Every fighter deserves a fair shake in my opinion however when the judges and I are out of sync I don’t presume they are corrupt or cheating maybe they just saw it different. Rematches should clear up controversy as to who is the better fighter which in both Canelo vs GOlovkin and Ward vs Kovalev it did.

    I genuinely don’t know which racist comments you are attributing to my babe Claressa, Floyd, Tank and Haney but seriously if you have them send to me, you can even PM if you like. If they are bad I will condemn it and let them know personally of my disapproval. I liked Kovalev until I found out he was a despicable rat racist.
     
  13. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I didn't make it personal. You did by continuously playing this silly little game where you pretend to deny something you know is true.

    Kovalev afforded Ward the golden opportunity to win all his world titles off of him in one fell swoop in his own country, something Ward would never even contemplate doing the reverse of in a million years, and then after his three home judges robbed Kovalev blind which, as said, the vast majority of fans agree with across the globe including your boy Floyd, when Kovalev's team quite understandably and rightfully requested neutral judges for the rematch because they wanted a fairer shake Ward refused to allow even one to work the fight and yet again he had a full set of three home judges and his obligatory home ref, the later of whom being a corrupt snake who robbed Kovalev again by waving off a fight on a flagrant foul when the correct course of action would be to administer a warning to the fighter who committed the foul and give the fighter on the receiving end of it five minutes to recover.

    There is simply no defending a fighter refusing to allow neutral judges let alone even just one, and even more so when the first fight was extremely controversial and they robbed their opponent blind in the previous fight. And you know damn well there isn't.

    Yeah you do, Olu. At least the ones made by Floyd and Haney you are.

    Maybe I will because this is not the place to discuss it
     
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  14. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    Call me old fashioned but when you feel the judges and system is against you, you don’t ***** about it you bring your own judges into the ring and knock the other guy out Azumah Nelson and Marvin Hagler style.

    Stop being disingenuous because you know the reason these fights were in the USA because that why the most money was full stop. You sound as if there is some kind of moral imperative as to where fights are held. Sorry Sir money dictates the venue of fights and you know it.

    Floyd, Haney, Tank and my girl are not racists. You should be condemning Kovalev’s racist comments instead of arguing the point.
     
  15. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Stop playing dumb. Or dumber than you are, Olu.

    No you're the one being disingenuous and making excuses for why your boy categorically refused to travel, never fight on an even remotely level playing field and refused to allow a single neutral judge to be appointed for the rematch

    When you fight an American in America the ref will be from the US 99% of the time and they stack the deck a scandalous amount of the time with three home judges and I mean for world title fights. This doesn't happen anywhere else in the world. Literally never.

    I could spend all day listing examples of this, you won't be able to find one example of the reverse

    Prove me wrong?

    Yes they are and you know it. You just don't care that they are. You were the one crying about Kovalev. I just pulled you up on your comical hypocrisy, Mr ''Keep that same energy''

    Now if you want to continue this conversation take it to PMs
     
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