Fury and Arum Holding Up Fury-Usyk, They Don't Think Usyk Deserves 50%

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Perkin Warbeck, Jan 16, 2023.


Should Usyk Receive 50%?

This poll will close on Oct 11, 2025 at 9:23 AM.
  1. Yes of course, he's already a legend and has 4 world titles

    75.6%
  2. No, Arum is right, he doesn't deserve 50%, he should accept less

    24.4%
  1. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. banned Full Member

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    Well, one belt of Usyk is worth 20%.
    Belly's WBC belt is worth 40% because of his particular history.
    So Usyk would deserve 60% Belly instead 40%.

    However the fight will never happen.
     
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  2. 08Horacio08

    08Horacio08 Member banned Full Member

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    lol duck top opponents Fury beat Klitschko in Germany and beat Wilder thrice in USA Fury is a lot of things but not a ducker... How many other active hw has four top level wins and away from home?
     
  3. Shay Sonya

    Shay Sonya The REAL Wonder Woman! Full Member

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    Why not 60% for the winner and 40% for the loser?
     
  4. ChiefGego

    ChiefGego Active Member Full Member

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    The Olympic champion, unbeaten, undisputed Cruiserweight and unified Heavyweight champ with 2 wins over AJ, 20-0 isn't worth a 50/50?

    Okay..
     
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  5. Leeroy84

    Leeroy84 Lancashire-la-la-la Full Member

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    If any of that mattered he'd arguably deserve more. He just doesnt sell in the UK like Fury does, and thats all it boils down to in boxing today.
     
  6. spravedlivylev

    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

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    How to tell me you are a casual without actually telling me.

    "Fury beat Klitschko in Germany" - Corrie Sanders beat a 12-year-younger, prime Wlad in two rounds in Germany. Besides, everyone travelled to Germany to fight Wlad. That's just how it was, Wlad fought 90% of his matches in Germany. So even though Fury fan casuals like to present this as proof of Fury taking risks - he simply had no choice. The Klitschko fight and the bouts against Wilder were not Fury at his risk-taking best - he had no other option. If he wanted any belts, he had to fight Wlad in Germany for them. And then when he returned from his PED ban, he was rebuilding his career and once again, he had no option but to be the B side to Wilder and go to the US. Then the second fight was obligatory for Fury- again - no choice. And by the third fight, everyone apart from delusional Wilder fans knew that no version of Wilder would ever beat Fury. It was basically a cash grab for Fury to beat a one-trick pony. For the third fight, Fury showed up after a **** camp, COVID, personal tragedy and overweight, in his worst form ever - yet he beat a stationary, flat-footed Wilder up with 150 power punches. It's laughable when the Wilder fights are presented as huge risks taken by Fury. He himself said he was disappointed by how easy it was to beat Wilder.

    Joshua has a much deeper resume and much more than four top-level wins :D The man had 12 title fights - Fury only had 6, out of those 3 against the same one-trick pony, a chinny plodder has-been and an almost 40,12 losses Chisora who had no business in being a contender in the first place. Joshua beat Povetkin, a still unbeaten and dangerous Whyte, Klitschko, an unbeaten Parker, avenged his Ruiz loss, beat Pulev. That right there are 6 top-level wins, and we can also talk about such quality wins as the ones against an unbeaten Martin, an unbeaten Breazale or Takam. And that's coming from someone who never even liked Joshua. But anyone who tries to argue that Joshua isn't the most decorated active HW with the deepest resume has no idea about boxing.

    How many other HW champion, past or present, had a VOLUNTARY defence against an almost 40, 12 losses opponent whom he'd already beaten twice 10+ years ago?
     
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  7. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Well, Bellew obviously actually fought Usyk and his team has dealt with Team Usyk and he says they were very easy to deal with indeed. Same thing happened when Usyk fought AJ. Team Usyk have an immaculate track record when it comes to this kind of thing.

    :lol: They'll probably move the goal posts again if that happens
     
  8. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Looks like this fight is heading to Wembley

    Which is FANTASTIC news for boxing fans

    Usyk will take a 40% split which will still yield him £30m from a revenue of roughly £80m

    Paycut of nearly half of what Saudi's can pay but they don't have a new stadium or venue to promote so won't host.
     
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  9. Leeroy84

    Leeroy84 Lancashire-la-la-la Full Member

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    40%, no wonder Krassyuk looked so happy at the footy the other night.
     
  10. Mister Pugilist

    Mister Pugilist Active Member Full Member

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    so the fight is all but confirmed?
     
  11. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    You'll have to find out next Saturday Night ion Jake Paul The Chosen Child Vs Tommy Furious Fury. $150 PPV.
     
  12. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    True wisdom on display here.

    After all, it did used to be called prize-fighting.
     
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  13. Mister Pugilist

    Mister Pugilist Active Member Full Member

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    come on man...tell me, im worried its not gonna happen, i hope it does
     
  14. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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  15. 08Horacio08

    08Horacio08 Member banned Full Member

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    Jeez you fairly go on a bit eh

    lol Joshua's best win is a 41 y.o. Klitschko who was retiring and hadn't boxed in 18 month, having just lost to Fury. That's literally Joshua's best win by far, the worst version of Klitschko who was blowing out of his arse after 5 rounds.

    Parker was shocking and it was a terrible fight. Ruiz was about 40 stone in the rematch, Mariusz Wach would have beat him lol. Pulev was old and crap, never any good. Povetkin was never any good either , had loads of fights and was never a world champion he had literally just taken a count against David Price who is at best British level. Fury would easily beat all of that lot you're in denial if you think otherwise lol. You have me in stitches here Martin, Breazeale, Takam.... you are clearly a fanboy of Joshua before you're a fan of the sport mate

    There's a big difference between fighting the actual top calibre (Fury, Usyk, Wilder, Joyce currently) and facing built up no hopers like the lot you've just mentioned.

    @Redbeard7 have you seen this geezers post? He is building up Breazeale, Takam, Ruiz, Parker, Martin... did he mention Molina? lol
     
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