Fury and Arum Holding Up Fury-Usyk, They Don't Think Usyk Deserves 50%

Like I care for your list, however you already gave me enough likes, haha, if we're going to dig it. The point is you realize how pathetic you become in every arguing you fall in, as you're incapable of just discuss in a mannerly way even biased, as many people do. Again: I remember how people here mocked you few months ago, was again some AJ or Usyk topic, as you barely post anything else.

 

John Fury let slip that it was the money offered from Saudi Arabia that led to the Usyk deal breaking down.

Whilst John Fury was talking about the Tommy Fury and Jake Paul fight, he starts ranting and makes the following remark:

“That’s what the delay is with Tyson – they won’t pay him what he’s worth. They want him for nothing. They want to make the money, they want the lions share and to give Tyson the small end.”

“But that ain’t going to wash with us. It’s the Fury’s way, or the highway, we bow down to no one. We are the kings of the ring at the minute.”

This is from Reddit.
Even Fury biggest fanatics starting to see for what he clearly is ...

 

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I would like to see 50/50 but if it comes to it Usyk should concede slightly. On boxing achievements he deserves equal pay but Fury does pull in a bigger crowd. Usyk should take less, win the fight, demand more for the rematch.

 

I just find it very interesting that Usyk was willing to take the smaller split against Joshua twice, but won’t do the same against Fury.

Even Eddie Hearn, the biggest Fury hater on the planet, admitted that Fury’s commercial value is worlds above Usyk’s.

If Usyk holds up the undisputed fight because he’s angling for an extra 10%, my respect for him will go down.

 

That's enough Internet for you today young man!

 

Precisely. While in his first fight against Joshua he was aiming at the titles, in their second fight he was already the man with the titles, plus a legacy in another division. So that means he can easily give Fury 60%, especially if they're going to fight in UK, as it seems and due to the fact Fury will be the one generating the bigger interest, maybe not much bigger, but still... Or can agree on Fury earning more from tickets and PPVs (like 60:40), but go with 50:50 with the rest. I mean, there're ways that theoretically can satisfy both, so whatever Fury is, it's not fully his fault and people should open their eyes to Usyk a bit more. He still seems a nice guy and is a great boxer, but won't buy it what a sport saint he is, come on...

My doubts start with the Saudis and their offers to both fighters.

 

There is absolutely no need to take such a confrontational style the whole time. Enjoy your ban, use it to calm down a bit and keep things in perspective.

 

Absolute rubbish. Both Arum and Warren repeatedly said how they wanted the fight to be in Saudi Arabia because that's where the money was. I know you are a fanatic, but claiming that a UK deal can be worth as much as a Saudi one is proper "men'al 'elf issues".

 

Because this is about boxing history. It's not just your average HW bout, it's not even just a title bout. It is the first undisputed title in over 20+ years and the very first in the four-belt era. Usyk also goes for two world records in:
- becoming undisputed at HW in only his 5th HW bout
- becoming undisputed at HW in only 6 matches after becoming undisputed in CW

I'm not even sure how could anyone think the stakes are anywhere close for Usyk to what they were when he fought Joshua.

What I find interesting is how Fury constantly manages to be a hypocrite and how his fans keep trying to justify his hypocrisy. Joshua was not only the bigger but the much bigger draw in 2019 - yet, Fury demanded 50% from him while he didn't even have any belts.

So to Fury's and his followers' minds, no logical error can be found here:
Fury in 2019: I should get at least 50% despite having no belts. If I don't get it, Joshua is ducking me.
Fury in 2023: Why should the unified heavyweight champion of the world get 50%? If Usyk doesn't take less, he is ducking me.

 

So we have threads on here stating Fury is ducking and also Usyk is ducking yet nobody knows what the details are of the separate contracts that where sent out to both fighters. How can anybody accuse either fighter of ducking when absolutely nobody outside of the Saudis,Team Fury and Team Usyk know anything at all apart from the fact that the Saudis sent out two separate contracts ?

 

Team Usyk went public a few days ago, accusing Fury of ducking. Now, if you are not a total newbie to boxing, you know that Team Usyk have long been the most straightforward and easiest team in the business to negotiate and make deals with. Bellew, Joshua, Chisora, heck, even Bob Arum confirmed this. They couldn't care less about trash-talking, mind games, saying stuff in the media just for the sake of saying stuff/winding others up etc. Just look at how quickly and without any problems they have always signed the contract for the fights. Just look at how they never, ever talked **** about others. They have a track record in these things.

And now, for the first time ever, there is this messy six months period of negotiations where there is still no official announcement on the date and venue of the fight, still no contract received from the other party etc. On the other hand, Fury has a long history of messy negotiations, pulling out of fights, going back on his word, money disputes, deadline demands and contradicting himself.

For the first time ever in his career, Usyk is caught up in this mess of a long and controversial negotiating/signing story. For the first time ever, Team Usyk goes public and accuses the other party of some serious things. Do you honestly think it's purely a coincidence when all of that occurs when the other party happens to be Fury?

 

Yes I fully agree that Usyks team are meant to be one of the easiest teams to deal with,however there has been changes. And that change is Usyk taking to social media trash talking,mind games,saying stuff in the media,winding others up and basically talking **** about Fury. Now we all know that this is part of Furys game but it has never been part of Usyk’s up until this fight and probably retaliation for the gappy tooth fiasco. It’s not the first time ever Usyk has had problems with a messy contract either . Joshua and Hearn stalled threatening to vacate the WBO belt unless Usyk agreed to the legendary Re Matchroom contract meaning that Usyk had to beat Joshua twice before he could move on despite him being the WBO mandatory and therefore did not even have to agree to the rematch,but in Usyks favour he signed the contract to get the fight and did indeed beat Joshua twice .

 

I don't understand your complaint against Usyk, here.

He was WBO mandatory in the first fight, so of course he had to take a lower split. And the second fight was a 50-50 contracted rematch because Hearn/Joshua were threatening to drop the belt.

 

The great Duckling Fury...