Fury and Arum Holding Up Fury-Usyk, They Don't Think Usyk Deserves 50%

It is what it is, either he's not confident or he's just about the money. But Krassyuk has given the deadline of 4th April, 50% or they walk.
Furys offer stands. If Usyk wants it, he should counter offer, not stand firm and make a deadline. What did he want to start with if we've only just now got to 50%? So much for being "easy to deal with".

 

It seems to me that he does while you are the one having trouble understanding it.

You and other members of the Fury congregation keep parroting about the business side of things. Then why don't you accept that Fury simply isn't worth as much on the market as you or he and his team think? The Saudis don't care about him or some YouTuber moron with a bird's nest for hair. They don't even care about boxing. All they care about is profit. If they don't give Fury $100m it's not because they have an agenda or they want to "disrespect" him (lol at the arrogance of those who think it's about Saudi billionaires and royals being interested in disrespecting some British boxer). They don't give him $100m because they don't think that amount is worth it to invest in him. Simple.

It's hilarious that whenever you want to justify Fury's demands and career moves, you keep talking about how business and market value work yet the Fury congregation is in full meltdown when the same monetary and business principles are applied by the Saudis when they estimate Fury's market value and how much they can get out of the fight - and apparently, it's not worth $100m for them.

When Fury didn't accept that the Saudis don't see his market value to be as high as he and his father do, he made a conscious decision to price himself out with the people that could get him the most money in boxing today. It doesn't get any more quack quack than that.

Fury was like: "Oh yeah, so you business people with business minds whose job is to make the most profit and calculate market values don't agree with me about my market value? Don't you tell me what I'm worth just because it's your job to know what is worth what and that's how you made your millions in the first place, meaning you are obviously good at your job! I won't take your millions then which are actually the highest amount I could get out of a boxing match today! Take that!"

Ridiculous. Fury has always wanted to duck Usyk, this whole charade is just an act of him trying to save face.

 

The offer was on the table from the Saudis. Perhaps Fury should sign it. Alternatively, consider how far Usyk would get if say he came to the table with DAZN backing him. That would definitely put a bullet in negotiations as ESPN and BT (Fury's backers) expect the TV rights.

Besides, I'm sure the businessmen involved will be all be looking at the numbers. They will know the money in this fight is more so in the global PPV not the gate at Wembley. So expecting, on top of exclusive TV rights, a 20% difference in the purse based on a history of great live ticket sales but mediocre PPV performance won't get very far. Krassyuk is right to stand his ground on that point, even more so in terms of sporting advantages. And as he already said, his sides demands are always relatively simple.

Undisputed through Usyk's involvement is a licence for the networks that have been investing in Fury to practically print money. That along with a Joshua fight has always been their end game. Making further demands is demented.

 

What you crying for. Its all the damn time with you. Give over FFS.
60/40 Wembley is on the table. Krassyuk said 50% by 4th April or they walk. Not rocket sciene. We'll find out on Saturday if Usyk really wants it or not. And thats it.

 

60/40 Wembley is the offer. Go watch Krassyuk and John Furys recent interviews again mate, will give you a better idea of where we are up to.

 

As Krassyuk politely intimated, John Fury is a blow hard who doesn't have a seat at the negotiating table.

Personally, I pay him no heed. He is a parent gassing up his son. It's to be expected.

 

Krassyuk, is no doubt a better source, but thankfully we have him to thank for recent revelations more so than John Fury.

All John did was note that it was 60/40, and that Usyk should receive 30% if he loses, but I disagree with John on that. 40% at Wembley is a bonkers offer that they should accept, Krassyuk is likely just playing hard ball with his deadlines, hoping for a little more. Good luck to him, I want this fight done.

 

I also wonder if what John says is what Fury's management offers or he simply promotes his son, which I'd understand, but he isn't doing it the best way for Tyson.

 

You can't respond anything to how Fury was moronic enough to price himself out with the Saudis. Quite telling.

Why should Usyk be happy with 40%? You keep pushing this idea as if it was such a gift for Usyk and he should be happy. He has three belts. He constantly outsold Fury since 2018 globally. He needs to fight in his opponent's backyard. You keep referring to that Krassyuk interview - listen to what he says about what a disadvantage fighting in your opponent's backyard is.

If anything, Fury should be grateful for the 50/50 offer - Usyk would be justified for more but he only wants what is fair, especially after Fury messed up his Saudi deal. Usyk sells bigger PPV numbers - fact. Who the hell cares about those 90k spectators in Wembley? That's peanuts and means nothing. That moronic John Fury boasts about how Fury sells more tickets in London than Usyk would. Lol, local fighters are more popular with locals, groundbreaking discovery. Next, we learn from him that water is wet. One thing is for sure: Usyk is immensely more popular with the Brits than Fury is with Ukrainians, and if the fight took place in Kyiv, Usyk would sell the **** out of the fight, much more so than Fury in London.

 

Usyk doenst sell without AJ, if he did he would be making the offers, like Wlad did with K2 taking fighters to Germany, not waiting around for Saudi money tactfully ducking Furys 40% at Wembley.
You waffle the same hatred, yet literally nothing you posted matters when it comes to making fights. None of it at all.
As Krassyuk directly stated himself, its Fury who sells the big tickets. And that's really all that matters and has been for decades. But I think you really know this.

 

The "AJ sold those Usyk fights" is the biggest lie Fury fans keep repeating. You don't have to make things up in a debate, you know. Then again, a boxing follower needs a certain type of mindset to still be a Fury fan in 2023 so I guess it all makes sense.

The Usyk-Chisora fight sold over one million PPVs. What's the explanation there, mate? Chisora is the huge PPV magnet? It didn't look like so against Whyte (440k PPV sales) or against Fury (PPV sales were somewhere between 300k and 500k, the latter figure coming from Frank Warren - and you know what that means). How is it possible that an Usyk-Chisora bout sold at least twice if not three times as many PPVs as a Fury-Chisora one?

Heck, even the Usyk-Bellew fight sold over 600k while the Klitschko-Fury fight sold around 550k. Fury's PPV numbers are ****, mate, period. He never sold anywhere close to one million, not even against Wilder (the trilogy was 750k), while Usyk fights have sold over one million PPVs three times in a row. Numbers don't lie - Fury followers usually do.

The truth is Usyk is very popular with the Brits as well as in the US and has been selling big PPV numbers since 2018. All this talk about people's champion this and Fury is the big draw that, and still, Usyk has been easily outselling Fury for years now.

Who the hell cares about ticket sales at Wembley. It's a matter of location, nothing else. Let's organise the fight in Kyiv - the whole of Ukraine would be there. In fact, Fury is much less popular in his home country than Usyk is in his. You can bet that at Wembley, there would be many Brits cheering for Usyk while literally, nobody would cheer for Fury in Kyiv.

Usyk thrashes Fury when it comes to PPV sales, so the Gypsy Queen doesn't fancy getting a thrashing from him in the ring too.

 

Imagine thinking a 36 year old cruiserweight can handle Tyson Fury.

 

I have no doubt Fury priced himself out of Saudi Arabia. Those guys are generous with their oil money and even they don't even want to host it because of Fury's demands.

Fury's ego is out of control and his greed is out of control. He's the one to blame for this fight not happening.

 

Why would Fury bother fighting again if he isn't getting £500m?

 

Lol.