"John, I thought this fellow could hit?"

Looks like he just dropped his beer.

 

That beat down waa absolutely brutal - though acknowledged to a fair degree - I still think it’s perhaps underrated in that regard.

Credit to Jeffries to keep going until he fell - at age 35 and 6 years out, if nothing else, Jeff upheld his extraordinary courage and willingness to take punishment - though his resilience was degraded.

Johnson’s incredible conditioning at age 32 himself reflected that he wasn’t at all dismissing Jeffries out of hand - not even the diminished version of The Boiler Maker.

 

John L dropped all his beers a few years prior to that - maybe, in that moment, he was thinking to pick them all back up again?

 

Not to be off topic but its nice to see you figured out on how to upload an Avatar.

 

Ha-Ha, are you suggesting I’m a Luddite?

Just for that little sneak attack, I might go back to the artist known as “?”.

Otherwise, keep an eye out for my new avatar - to keep things fresh.

And no, that’s not including any gratuitously provocative/sexy images from the Library.

 

Nowhere else in boxing history has anyone celebrated a win over an opponent who was coming off a six year retirement and having to lose close to 100 pounds.

 

In order to obtain a library card the terms of privacy are included so no pics. lol.

 

Not sure what a Luddite is but if it has to do with latitude or longitude then I would say no, definitely not.

 

"Jeffries was in great condition,he wouldn't have been able to take all that punishment if he wasn't."Sam Langford

 

People often talk about this fight like Jeffries lumbered off his farm in 1910 and was forced to shed 100 lbs in the space of a couple of months. The reality was that more than a year before the fight he was touring the country boxing exhibitions, to much admiring commentary on his quickness of hand and foot, his weight estimated at around 240 lbs.

Which of course doesn't change the fact that his rustiness put him at a major disadvantage against Johnson, but he wasn't the defenceless, bloated walrus that legend sometimes suggests.

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“If he could take all that punishment he wouldn’t have been dropped an stopped” jackSilver

 

Wow, I've look at this particular photo so many times and never noticed that .. great find and point made !

 

Ray Leonard was in great shape for Camacho. Just sayin'.

 

"The Last Great Prizefight" by Steve Frederick.

There were several (white) boxers who were disgusted at the shape Jeffries was in during training for JJ. Gunboat Smith, who knew both men, said "Jeff knows he can't win, he knows what he lost is gone for good."
Jeffries, 35, was in no physical condition to fight Johnson, or any other professional, for that matter, according to his own doctor, and the private warnings of Joe Choynski, his trainer and a former heavyweight from the bare-knuckle era.

Choynski told friends that Jeffries "ain't got it anymore. He couldn't whip me!" (Choynski was a retired light heavyweight, 42 years old, who had lost 14 fights, 10 by KO - and he said Jeffries after his 6 years of drinking and being the "fattest man in Califronia" could not beat him!)

Although he lost 103 pounds in training and resembled his old self, only heavier, his muscle tone and strength were gone, his speed non-existent, his hand-eye coordination and reflexes had lost their sharpness, according to a deeply worried Choynski, who said all his timing and movement was gone. Johnson watching Jeffries, who had his head bowed, driving off, remarked to his trainer, "Jeff is a shadow, I hope the money is worth it, he knows he ain't got a prayer."