Usyk accepts 70/30 deal, the fight is on!

Imagine selling tickets less than 6 weeks out from a global sporting event.

At this rate only caravan owners will have bed and board in London...

 

At this point I’m doubting that this fight is gonna happen

“Best ever”, Big-talking Fury does not want it

 

the fight would get sold out as soon as it's announced i doubt they are worried about that

 

Stating the obvious there

 

Still very short notice. Should have been announced in february.
At this rate it will be april 30 and people still talking the will they, wont they...
Hurry the f up. Day after day and nothing happens.

 

It would be weird in the current context if this was anything other than the Usyk announcement.

 

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Fury filming promo footage - this is all incredibly promising. There could be a lot of disappointed posters!

 

That’s what promoters do. Remember when a few years ago Hearn made a post about "huge news, this is what all of you boxing fans have been waiting for" or something, in the middle of Fury and Joshua talks?

And it was about some **** regarding the DAZN app. Talk about weird announcements in the current context.

 

To me, this doesn’t mean anything. Promotional stuff were made, even tickets were being sold for Klitschko-Fury II.

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We all know what happened. Fury has a long history in pulling out of or otherwise ducking fights.

It seems that you have great trust in Fury. I don’t find that a wise thing when it’s a Fury bout against someone who can dangerous to him. Until I see him touching gloves with Usyk before the first round on the 29th of April, I will stay absolutely convinced that he would never face Usyk. Not now, not in the summer, not late 2023, not next year - never.

If he wanted to face Usyk, he would already have. Same with Joshua. If the fight doesn’t happen on the 29th of April, it was never meant to happen by Fury and it will never happen at any point.

 

Personally, I think the fight is happening. Thankfully!

It's a case of the boy who cried wolf. Fury can't really get away with saying he's not ready, as the only reason some gave him a pass on Chisora 3 was they saw it as a tune up for this fight. So that excuse is out the window. And after faking COVID to push back the Wilder 3 fight he can't exactly postpone with injury (whether true or not).

So, I am cautiously optimistic that the fight happens on April 29th. Though it is all ridiculously last minute for a fight of this magnitude.

 

Wilder epitomised someone ‘dangerous’ to Fury, especially that first fight. The comeback could’ve been over that night. And yes I think I clearly have a lot more trust in Fury than you do. I think it’s on, Fury’s camp is underway - even his masseuse is there.

 

From what I understand, the Saudi money is linked to promotion for the individual stadia- as in that's where the budget comes from.

 

This could all just be Fury using the hype for this fight to help sell tickets for Fury vs Wilder 4.

Just like Joshua vs Fury was used to help Fury promote Fury vs Wilder 3.

 

The first Wilder fight was, just like the Klitschko fight, out of sheer necessity for Fury. The only two times when he took risks were because he had to take them in order to have his career going.

For the Klitschko fight, he was sitting at twenty-something fights in his late twenties, fighting almost exclusively at home. He was such an unknown name that the bout sold barely over 500k on PPV. He simply couldn’t afford not to take the Klitschko fight if he was going anywhere with his career.

The first Wilder fight was, once again, pure necessity. He was just returning from a two year ban. He had to rebuild his career and brand. Once again, he could not afford not to take that fight - and remember, he took it instead of facing Joshua. Even then he went for the smaller risk. And also remember how he did everything he could to get out of subsequent Wilder fights.

So Fury is the most cowardly, dishonest and disgraceful HW champion by far in the history of the sport. He absolutely goes the “most money, least risk” way. There’s nothing wrong with that in itself of course. What’s wrong is that he markets himself as a warrior who takes on everyone as well as a people’s champion who drives a Volkswagen and couldn’t care less about money. He is selling this idea that he is up there with the Alis and the Lewises and yet he voluntarily defends his WBC strap against an almost 40, 12 losses opponent whom he’d beaten twice some ten or so years earlier.

 

You debate well, especially considering it's not your native language, but I think you are a bit better than being wilfully omissive. Prior to Klitschko, Fury fought in Ireland, Canada and the USA. That's not "almost exclusively at home". If you are going to compare him to his main heavyweight rivals when they first challenged for a title, Wilder had only fought outside the US twice (Mexico) and Anthony Joshua zero.

You imply he was almost pushed into the Klitschko and Wilder fights against his will, and out of sheer necessity alone. He clearly was desperate to fight Klitschko. He spent the early part of his career working towards it. Obviously fighting Wilder gave his profile a bit of a boost, but he was under no obligation to do it so early in his comeback. He could've given it another 6 months if he wanted, the fight would've still been there, but he choose to do it 6 months into his comeback. This, again, wasn't out of necessity.

It's also not strictly true that he fought Wilder "instead" of Joshua - especially in the way you're trying to frame it as some sort of duck. He was offered a [url]run of fights[/url] by Hearn (Whyte, Bellew, Joshua) and that's all we know. We have no idea what the terms would've been. Given that Joshua was very much the golden boy at this time, I'm sure the terms would've been completely unfavourable to Fury. Rightly or wrongly, Fury has always seen himself as the number 1 in the UK and his ego wouldn't let him take any sort of deal where he's not the "A side". That Hearn proposal was clearly a non-starter. As a result of rejecting that and fighting Wilder, Fury got that enormous ESPN deal.

If Fury actively prevents the Usyk fight from happening and fights Ngannou or someone in April - your last paragraph about "most money, least risk" may hold some validity. But until then, it's not a valid argument because the fight looks on course to be made. Some gave the Chisora fight a bit of a pass, simply due to him wanting to stay active, on the proviso he fought Usyk next. It is still looking very likely to happen.