Fury vs. Usyk is OFF, says Usyk's manager

So you take Warren’s word over Krassyuk’s? Do you actually know the track record of these two when it comes to honesty?

It’s one thing that you, a known Furyette, react this way. But I’d never thought Rummy would agree with such nonsense as to believing Warren of all people in a situation like that.

 

Warren, talking s**te? No way! Shocking, who would have thought!

 

Today's announcement is undoubtedly a push from the Ukrainians to speed up the negotiations.

 

I don't think one mans word is any better than the other. Krassyuk wanted to give Joyce only 7% cut of the purse against Usyk.

We need to hear a list of demands from both camps to know for sure whats going on.

 

You put the contract in
Then you pull out
In out in out you shake it all about
You do the Fury Usyk and you **** about
That's what it's all about

WHOOOAH the Fury usyk
WHOOOAH the Fury usuk
WHOOOAH the Fury usyk
Fights on fights off rah rah rah

 

The rematch clause seems to be causing chaos. Which side wants it?

They should both scrap the rematch. One shot , whoever lose will lose

 

Nothing is black and white… If you think that’s the way the world works you know nothing!

 

It's clearly the rematch issue, think Krassyuk wanted to gloss over that....

 

Absolute nonsense. What does that Joyce deal have to do with anything in this discussion about who is telling the truth?

Warren has a very long track record of lying and gas lighting and whatnot. On the other hand, Krassyuk is famously a straight shooter and easy to deal with. Give me just one example from Krassyuk's promoting history where it turned out he didn't tell the truth about anything.

 

You can see it from Usyks perspective, he wants a better split in the rrematch particularly if it's in Saudi.

 

I'm team Joyce.

 

I don't know much about Krassyuk. . Do you know what split Usyk got in the first fight and what split he got in the rematch against AJ?

 

It's absolutely mind blowing how Fury fans try to twist this whole thing around. It's Krassyuk, it's the rematch clause, it's Usyk, etc. It's always something or someone else, never Fury. Big fights involving Fury keep collapsing from the Wlad rematch to the still unbeaten Whyte or Joshua to Usyk, but it's always the other side. Watching Fury fans forming their arguments in this thread gives a great insight into the depths of fanaticism and the inner working of a hive mind.

 

That much is very clear indeed.

 

I think Usyk benefits more from a rematch clause.

For a start financially: Usyk gets another massive payday by his standards, whereas Fury could make a substantial chunk of change for zero risk against Ruiz in his next fight if he beats Usyk with no rematch clause.

Fury also has a tendency to become complacent: maybe if there's a guaranteed rematch he won't be 110%, do or die. And more importantly, if he wins the first fight more easily than expected he could become complacent and give Usyk a good chance of winning the rematch.