Fury - Usyk

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Windrunner07, Feb 3, 2023.


  1. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ruiz, is too tough of opponent for Fury going on his MO and Ruiz would be the most proven opponent Fury has fought since 2015.

    Fury will go with someone Wallin, Wilder, Chisora and Ortiz level type guys.
     
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  2. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Switch Whyte and Wilder.

    Put Wallin and Cunningham in tier 3.

    Move Gassiev to yo tier 1.
     
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  3. Jolly Roger

    Jolly Roger Active Member Full Member

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    People forget that Cunningham had been losing fights and was in his late 30s when he gave Fury hell. He wasn’t considered in his prime.
     
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  4. UmarIFLUmar

    UmarIFLUmar Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Oh come on. Ruiz would be an easy night work for Fury. It wouldn't even be close.

    There's some serious overrating of heavyweights going on right now.
     
  5. Work the body

    Work the body Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So basically because Fury won’t give him the same split if he wins the fight is off? Lmao
     
  6. BrokerNYC

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    Mate you are overrating Ruiz, he has fast hands but his feet are as slow as a snail, Fury would jab his head off and force a stoppage..
     
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  7. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I thought Whyte was clearly ranked above Ruiz Mitch? What happened? When Wilder looked like he was going to fight Ruiz, Ruiz was only 7th in your rankings...

    Ruiz wouldn't lay a meaningful glove on Fury, it's the most comical mismatch in the top 10 as we all know. Hilarious, zero risk, good payday but everyone with a braincell understands it means nothing legacy-wise. Losing to Ruiz (let alone via 4 KD quitjob) in your prime marks you as a joke forever.
     
  8. BoxingAddick

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    Why wouldnt it be competitivie ? Wallin gave Fury a decent fight, Ruiz for my money beat Parker and the version of parker all the hardcores picked to KO AJ. Im not saying Ruiz beats Fury but the truth is Ruiz is probably better than most of Furys resume bar a handful.
     
  9. BoxingAddick

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    So Parker (who all the hardcores picked to KO Joshua) is a joke, as is Ortiz who is probably Wilders best win ? We can sit here and play this and that, compare resume and all of us would be hypocritical until we are blue in the face because we all know it isnt as easy as A beats B, B beats C so A must beat C.

    The truth is this Fury has better wins than AJ, Fury is also ducking the Usyk fight and no amount of spin will convince me otherwise. Also Fury has ducked a lot of fights previously.
     
  10. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If you didn't have weak points you wouldn't have to distort reality.

    Cunningham was 36, which is far more "mid 30's" than "late 30's" and he started boxing at 19, so less wear.

    Cunningham's immediate fight prior to Fury was against Adamek, who he also fought 4 years prior. Adamek 2 was a far better performance than Adamek 1, despite the same SD result. Cunningham was in or around his prime, didn't have to cut weight anymore as he did at cruiser and was only stopped once in 40 pro fights, by Fury in 7 rounds.
     
  11. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "(who all the hardcores picked to KO Joshua)"

    Stopped reading as soon as I read that, not wasting my time with liars. Joshua was a huge favourite to beat Parker, on this forum and with the oddsmakers.
     
  12. Puroresu_Fan

    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Team Fury trying to limit Usuyk to a 50/50 split in a potential rematch because Usuyk got 50% in the AJ rematch is ridiculous.

    The two fights having nothing to do with each other and the split Usuyk got vs AJ in the rematch is irrelevant.

    If Fury is demanding a rematch be a 50/50 split because that's what AJ got in the rematch vs Usuyk only shows how much AJ lives in Furys head.

    Usuyk conceding to 30% is a major concession and can see why he wants to get the upper hand in any rematch.
     
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  13. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    LMAO

    Gassiev has beaten who at heavyweight exactly? No one better/more proven than Mansour.

    Cunningham KO'd Huck (future joint longest reigning cruiser champ, 50-50 with 2012 Povetkin) in Germany, beat Wlodarczyk in Poland (Gassiev's 3rd best win), G. Jones (KO'd Lebedev, who had a SD with Gassiev and is probably his best win), Braithwaite (KO'd Hernandez), stopped Ross. 11 fights against cruiserweight champions, only one stoppage defeat (to Fury in a war) in 40 fights.

    Gassiev was utterly useless against Usyk, vastly worse than Chisora, Joshua and Hunter. He's firmly tier 2 and never will be any more than that.

    Whyte was utterly useless against Fury, much closer to Schwarz and Chisora 3 (who outperformed Whyte) than Wallin or elite KO artist Wilder.

    You described Breazeale as a "solid fringe contender" on the same level as Takam and Wallin schooled him in America and went 12 rounds with 33-0-1 Wlad-dethroner champion Fury (Whyte went 6, Chisora 10 in two fights, Wilder 7 and 11 in two fights). Perhaps if Whyte stops ducking him as "Dean Whyte" says is wise, Whyte can regain some respect. But he'd get schooled by the taller, faster, tougher southpaw and he knows it, so he'll DUCK and go for the least dangerous opposition possible (Franklin).
     
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  14. EJC83

    EJC83 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Imagine if you're Usyk, you agree to the 70/30 split in Tyson's favour, then if you beat him you are faced with a rematch where you are still going to earn less if that walking contradiction sob story of an ogre has his way again. That's not right, that's not prizefighting.
     
  15. BoxingAddick

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    Lol ok change history.