Fury vs. Usyk is OFF, says Usyk's manager

Usyk's lost massive amount of popularity in Russia since the Russo-Ukrainian war began and Bellew got an 80% split.

"Usyk-Chisora bout sold three times as many PPVs as the Fury-Chisora 3 bout"

If you trust those bogus figures. How much did Fury get paid against Whyte and Chisora? A ludicrous, exorbitant amount, whereas Usyk's been paid relative peanuts his whole career barring 2 fights. Who will make more: Fury from fighting Ruiz or Usyk from fighting his mandatory Dubois or Hrgovic? And which fight is the easiest?

 

I don't know what his current status is but the fight would apparently be in June/July, which is 6-7 months after the injury. I imagine if it's not Dubois, Usyk will have another mandatory to deal with (Hrgovic?)

 

ACL tear apparently, nasty, could be out for a very long time. Potentially all of 2023 if it's a bad one.

 

Who the f*ck cares about Russia? Usyk is Ukrainian. What does his popularity in Russia have to do with anything, are you nuts?

And who the f*ck cares about money? Fury, the lying moron, and his fans. That's the only thing they can understand from boxing: money. Well, guess what: that bald blob has contempt for you too, no matter how eagerly you hug his nuts. He shits on his fans the most.

Oh yes, bogus figures, that's the best Fury vassals can do, lol. Get out of here. What, Fury's PPV numbers are doctored too? How does that work exactly? Usyk constantly outsells Fury on PPVs - what's the explanation there, chief? Some clandestine powers undersell Fury's PPV numbers and oversell Usyk's? Because one thing is for sure: Fury's PPV numbers are sh*t, mate. He sold 540k when he fought Klitschko and he never even got close to one million PPVs ever in his life - something that Usyk has been achieving constantly since 2020. Go figure.

Truth is, nobody gives a f*ck about Fury. The Saudis put him in his place because only the idiot himself, his criminal father and his intellectually challenged vassals think he is that big a draw. But he is not, the Saudis told him where to put that number he as demanding. He is not a big draw, his marketing value is sh*t compared to that of Joshua or Canelo. Heck, he sold a measly 3500 tickets and they had to literally give tickets away in Las Vegas against Wallin a few years ago. It was embarrassing. Nobody gives a flying f*ck about him outside of the UK - and he is losing popularity even back home hands over fist. The guy has a sh*t resume, a sh*t personality and anyone who still follows him after the biggest duck in HW history is sh*t too. At least when Bowe ducked he gave up the belt so others could fight for it. This despicable vermin holds the WBC strap as a hostage and instead of just f*cking off to have his gimmicks against Ngannou or Richard bloody Hammond, he beats up 40-year-old, 12-losses has-beens and charges Furyette idiots 30 quid for it.

 

Yeah 6-9 months recovery plus add a training camp on top of that, doubt very much if Dubois is next.

Usyk vs Wilder would be decent consolation if the undisputed fight is indeed dead. I do hope this "fight's off" talk is some kind of warped PR ploy though but the hope is fading.

 

Let the world know that I have withdrawn my recognition of Tyson Fury as heavyweight champion. He is a selfish, lying, disgrace. Usyk is the champ.
Thank you.

 

"What does his popularity in Russia have to do with anything"

He had major support in Russia, which is by far the biggest market in Eastern Europe. Not anymore.

"And who the f*ck cares about money?"

Usyk, otherwise he'd have taken 70-30 with 50-50 if he wins the first fight as was offered, rather than price himself out by demanding 70-30 of a more lucrative rematch.

"Usyk constantly outsells Fury on PPVs - what's the explanation there, chief?"

American PPV prices are about 3x as high and Usyk's had his figures artificially boosted by opponents and platforms. As I said he got 20% vs Bellew, same against Joshua for fight 1 as a mandatory.

Let's see how much Usyk makes against Dubois or Hrgovic at the Copper Box or the O2. Fury will 80-20 Ruiz at Wembley and get 10x as much.

"he never even got close to one million PPVs ever in his life"

Fury-Wilder 2 did close to a million, with the expensive U.S. PPV's.

"This despicable vermin..."

Calm down there Adolf! Don't give yourself an aneurysm!

 

This fight has been on and then off like 4 times. I’m starting to lose hope.

 

I won't knock anyone for being an optimist when it comes to boxing.
But Sugar Hill is directly contradicting what Warren said on TalkSPORT yesterday:

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Sugar's plane tickets are for March 28th and he hasn't been training Fury.

In the words of Lenny Kravitz "It Ain't Over 'til It's Over"
But this one seems pretty much done.

 

"He had major support in Russia, which is by far the biggest market in Eastern Europe. Not anymore." - Once again: who the **** cares about Russia? What is this dumb sh*t about Eastern European markets? Usyk has been a household name in the UK ever since he won the London Olympics and beat Joyce up in WSB - and he has been huge since the Bellew fight.

"Usyk, otherwise he'd have taken 70-30 with 50-50 if he wins the first fight as was offered, rather than price himself out by demanding 70-30 of a more lucrative rematch." - Lol.

The tale of the tape:

Fury: Middleweight, I'll fight you in Saudi!
Usyk: Fine.
Fury: Guess what, I don't want to fight in Saudi any more, I don't care if you already made your deal with them!
Usyk: Fine.
Fury: I want to fight in my backyard!
Usyk: Fine.
Fury: And I want a rematch too!
Usyk: Fine. So the split is 50/50, right?
Fury: Yes.
Usyk: Fine.
Fury: On second thoughts - no, f*ck that 50/50!
Usyk: Fine. How about 60/40 for you?
Fury: Hell no!
Usyk: But that's what you wanted from Joshua, without belts, while Joshua was the bigger draw.
Fury: Rabbit! Middleweight!
Usyk: Fine. How about 60/40 for the winner?
Fury: Hell no! It's 70/30 for me!
Usyk: Bro... you mad? 30%, that's what beltless WBC mandatories get.
Fury: Take it or leave it, midget!
Usyk: Fine.
Fury: And I changed my mind - no rematch!
Usyk: Fine.
Fury: Haha, changed my mind again - the rematch is on!
Usyk: Fine.
Fury: And the best split you can get even if you beat me in the first match is 50/50!
Usyk: Bro... It's customary that if there's an uneven split for the first fight, the split is reversed if the winner of the first fight is the guy with the smaller split.
Fury: Rabbit! Middleweight midget! Gappy teeth!
Usyk: Okay, that's enough of you.

Redbeard7: USYK IS PRICING HIMSELF OUT!!!!!

Much like Fury, you seem to struggle to understand something here. It was all about the principle of drawing a line. Fury never wanted this fight and kept moving the goalposts. No matter how many concessions Usyk kept making, Fury always tried to find something, again and again, to price himself out or run the clock down or otherwise collapse the fight. Usyk kept agreeing to everything, it was clear who wanted the fight more. There was not a single demand from Usyk but demands kept coming for Fury. Anyone who argues that is a dishonourable liar and a troll. Usyk simply had enough of Fury's games because it became clear Fury never wanted this fight. Who the hell thought he would be ready to fight Usyk in six weeks, with no southpaw sparring partners, and SugarHill coming to the UK to train Okolie and not him? I repeat: Fury NEVER wanted this fight, and only liars with an agenda can try to argue otherwise.

"As I said he got 20% vs Bellew, same against Joshua for fight 1 as a mandatory.

Let's see how much Usyk makes against Dubois or Hrgovic at the Copper Box or the O2. Fury will 80-20 Ruiz at Wembley and get 10x as much."

Once again, you are incapable of making a distinction between money and interest. People who tune in don't tune in because they know what percentages the fighters get and they have a mentality like "let's watch the fight, the more the better, so my guy gets more money then". People tune in to watch the fighters. And Fury had **** numbers against Chisora or Klitschko, US PPVs or not. Fury sold only 540k PPV against Klitschko, 400k against Whyte and a laughable 300k against Chisora. These are pathetic numbers, mate.

Anyway, I'm not wasting my time any more explaining obvious things to Fury fanboys. You guys are beyond help and there's absolutely no point in discussing anything with you.

 

"Usyk has been a household name in the UK ever since he won the London Olympics"

Delusional. I'd be surprised if 1% knew who he was back in 2012, do even 10% know who he is now? Usyk apparently made about $1 million from the Bellew fight, with zero belt Tony taking 80% from the undisputed champ and P4P phenom.

"Fury:
Usyk:"

Dumb again. The two teams were negotiating behind the scenes. It wasn't Fury and Usyk in a room together thrashing it out; that's all for show, for fools like you to take too seriously.

You say Usyk doesn't care about money but wants 70-30 in a much more lucrative rematch if he wins. You say he doesn't care about rematch clauses ("Fury's idea") but won't fight for less than 50-50 without one...

"It's customary that if there's an uneven split for the first fight, the split is reversed if the winner of the first fight is the guy with the smaller split."

Dishonest BS. Was it "customary" in the Joshua rematch? Or did Usyk get 50% for winning and 20% the first time?

"Redbeard7: USYK IS PRICING HIMSELF OUT!!!!!"

Yes. As it stands they both are. Team Usyk shouldn't get a pass come what may, which you will always give them because you have an insane, frothing at the mouth hatred of Fury (which I love btw).

"Who the hell thought he would be ready to fight Usyk in six weeks"

You assume that Fury's not been training regularly and perhaps Fury wanted to push it back to May or June. That would have been hugely preferable to Usyk walking away.

https://www.sportsmanor.com/boxing-news-tyson-fury-ppv-sales-biggest-ppv-events-of-the-gypsy-king/

Fury-Wilder 2: 1,200,000 on ESPN/Showtime, half that number in the trilogy (again 3x the price of the UK). I thought you said "nowhere near a million"?

I don't know if any of these viewing figures are real. But for most of his career Usyk's been making champ change relatively and that's because there hasn't been great demand to see him fight. If there had been, the likes of Bellew wouldn't have been able to muscle him around in purse split negotiations. I'm sure team Usyk weren't happy to get bent over like that but they had to take it to go from A to B.

Perhaps team Usyk are holding fast to their 50-50 no rematch/70-30 in rematch demands because they realise there's a good chance Fury whoops him, so team Usyk need to squeeze as much money out of a Fury fight/fights as possible before Usyk retires. Otherwise he'd take a minority of the pot (perhaps 35-40%) with no rematch clause and beat Fury then call the shots himself, make Fury grovel for a rematch or just move on to the next guy.

 

my last hope is a secret surprise announcement at wembley during the ukraine-england match sunday