Fury vs. Usyk is OFF, says Usyk's manager

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Melankomas, Mar 21, 2023.


Who's at fault

  1. Usyk

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  2. Fury

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  1. MAD_PIGE0N

    MAD_PIGE0N ... banned Full Member

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    Being so obsessed with Usyk that you glorify even something so normal as congratulate a man for his baby - that's what you are, a very low level, no wonder you look at Usyk as deity, you sectarian. But the next time you complain about Fury's bad language, keep in mind that "professional boxing is ultra masculine and the trash talks is a thing". Also, keep in mind that whatever problems I have, they don't solve yours.

    "This was the last time I interacted with you directly" - you admit I'll live in your **itty head free, daily and you can't stop keep feeding on "the lowest", but then guess where that puts you...
     
  2. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    He'd insist the fight was moved to the middle east...
     
  3. Mugen38

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    Exactly,the few remaining Fury fans that are still gaslighting everyone else & trying to say Usyk ducked the fight is laughable & beyond pathetic!

    Fighters that Fury has ducked:

    1- David Price
    2- Alexander Ustinov
    3- Wladimir Klitschko rematch
    4- AJ
    5- Oleksandr Usyk

    Fighters that Usyk has ducked: 0

    I'd be ashamed & embarrassed to call myself a Luke Fury fan & the sooner he leaves the sport the better as he won't be missed.

    Luke Fury is certainly not the Spartan warrior he claims to be & Usyk has more courage, integrity & dignity in the gap between his teeth than that 6ft 7in slob has in his entire body!
     
  4. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thing is it might sell even better in 8 months time (although it's a gamble: one or both could lose, a la Wilder and Joshua). Demand will be further pent up. People will think Fury's running scared of the dangerous Usyk, making the fight more competitive and compelling in theory. And even more will be foaming at the mouth to see Fury (who will have toyed with AJ-conqueror Ruiz in the meantime) humiliated by the "middleweight". Mayweather-Pacquiao vibes.
     
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  5. MAD_PIGE0N

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    Assuming both stay undefeated in some 7-8-9 months and finally arrange a fight, what's sure is that Usyk will be unable to defend all the belts and will lose some. Which, to me, doesn't matter, because I always say that what matters aren't the titles, but the quality of the opponents, so having both fighting with all the belts or with no belts at all will be a historical fight.
     
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  6. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah I care much more about the matchups than the belts. Imagine if another 6 "legit" sanctioning bodies existed and there were 10 belts: would they have any meaning? If Fury and Usyk hypothetically vacated the belts and fought, the fight would mean just as much from a "best fight the best" standpoint. The winner would be the true heavyweight champion and everyone would understand that, regardless of how many Charles Martins and Joseph Parkers picked up paper titles.
     
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  7. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The "undisputed" thing is a nice way to sell a fight, but you don't need it at HW. The belts are mostly a nuisance, other than the importance of having at least one of them.
     
  8. Mister Pugilist

    Mister Pugilist Active Member Full Member

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    Can someone help me understand

    why didn't Fury just straight up say "Hey i don't think i will be ready for April....maybe in June/July" that's like all he had to literally say and no one would of cared...... but instead he set up this whole charade with his training staff...it just seems weird
     
  9. spravedlivylev

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  10. HEADBANGER

    HEADBANGER TEAM ELITE GENERAL Full Member

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    Fury did accept 70/30

    The deal for the 1st fight is complete

    Fury then agreed to the rematch

    Usyk then refused the same exact rematch split he accepted in the Joshua negotiations

    Usyk then pulled out of the fight

    His greed to get his hands on that gypsy king money has seen him walk away from the chance to become the lineal and undisputed heavyweight champion of the world.

    Usyk is now likely to get knocked out by Dubois for peanuts.

    Usyk is a coward and Krassyuk is a very poor business man.
     
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  11. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    Fury mentioned on Rogan that Cunningham was very slippery and he found it hard to time him.

    Fury has also lost some speed. I think he knows its a hard fight.
     
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  12. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "Hatman screamed that Wlad Klitschko had "the heart of a 12 year old girl" after he was outpointed by Fury but defended AJ against charges of quitting after he was waved off in the corner against Andy Ruiz."

    Also picked up another lie listening to the start: Gasman claimed that Manny Steward said that “Wlad would never pass Lewis in terms of greatness” when he actually said "Wlad may pass Lennox now" in June 2012 but died over 3 years and 6 wins (7 after that interview) before the end of Wlad's reign, plus Steward said: "Given the opportunity I think he will surpass Lennox. If he can continue to win for 3 more years and beat the likes of (Valuev), Adamek, (especially) Povetkin and (especially) Haye, he will get respect" - September 2010, before another 10 Wlad defences

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    "Hatman said that Wilder was "one of the biggest, if not the biggest puncher in HW history" in 2019 but backtracked on that claim after Fury beat him, saying that "Wilder's power has been overrated" and "we don't know how it compares in history"."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkaxJHO9J0A

    "Hatman claimed just before Wilder 2 that if Fury beat Wilder, Whyte and Joshua, he'd be a "1st rate ATG". After Fury beat Wilder x2 and demolished Whyte, Hatman said Fury needed "another 10 defences" to be an "ATG"."

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GbY0fjOlv8

    "Hatman claimed that he "never thought Luis Ortiz was a top 5 heavyweight", despite saying that Ortiz would beat Whyte in late 2018, beat Ruiz post-AJ 1 in mid 2019, and have a "very good chance" of beating Joshua in late 2016."

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fep0bETgHA

    I can't find the Ruiz video easily but it's there in his catalogue soon after the Joshua-Ruiz 1 post-fight reaction.

    "Hatman claimed before Fury-Whyte that there were “shades of Ali-Norton” and “70’s vibes” but after Fury schooled and destroyed Whyte he claimed that Whyte “never had a realistic chance” and later, “Fury cherrypicked him”."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITwMmAw0asA

    I could dig around more but this should keep you occupied. If you seriously contest any of my claims about your deity let me know.
     
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  13. OldSchoolBoxing

    OldSchoolBoxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Because his precious WBC belt gets him paid $25 M per fight. He doesn't want to lose it.
     
  14. Young Terror

    Young Terror ★ Griselda ★ Full Member

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    I dont think hes scared of Usyk as a man i do think hes scared of losing to a guy who he calls a middleweight.
     
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  15. UmarIFLUmar

    UmarIFLUmar Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think he's a greedy **** who decided he could make easier money fighting inferior opposition.

    In his head why would he fight a guy who could beat him for £50m when he could fight 3 bums with no chance of beating him and earn £70m while also maintaining his earning potential for big Saudi fights with Tony Dosh or Usyk.

    This is why it's essential to boycott his fights. **** him.
     
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