Fury's history and paper thin resume

Worst part is he would have been fine if he had fought Usyk win or lose and then had a final fight with Aj. .if he wins those two fights his resume is still solid.
Dethroned Wlad after almost a decade, had arguably the best comeback next to Foreman, beat arguably the hardest hitting heavyweight ever 2(3) times.
Imagine if he beats atg Usyk, becomes undisputedfor the first time in 20 years and as a cherry on top, defeats his uk rival AJ in his final fight.

He would have a great resume and legacy, enough money for generations and be very well liked for his work and mental health stuff.

He's very close to that and bottled it completely to the point he is now rightfully mocked and disliked and called out for the worst duck since bowe threw his belt in the trash and his resume being weaker than it should.

 

I don't think Wilder has at any point been the best at heavyweight.

 

Regardless of anyone's opinions, Wilder was ranked by Ring as the best heavyweight in the world (barring Fury) going into the rematch. AJ had recently been completely destroyed by 25-1 underdog Ruiz and his stock had gone down considerably in the process, regardless of the Saudi rematch win. And he hasn't exactly done brilliantly since.

 

Meh. He's Riddick Bowe level.

Klitschko, WilderX2, Whyte, Cunningham, ChisoraX3 (whatever that is worth), Wallin...

You can throw in Hammer, Johnson, Schwartz, Rogan, Pianeta.

He is not and never will be top ten, and yes, he has shamed himself for fighting Chisora three times, and for ducking Usyk. But give him the credit he deserves.

 

"a career worst Wlad Klitschko"

Just as Fury beat a "career worst" Wilder in the rematch, a "career worst" Whyte and a "career worst" Chisora in the rematch.

Fury made them have "career worst performances" by being far superior on the night. And he set the all time 12 round defensive record against a champion when he schooled P4P No.2 A-side Wlad in Germany.

"For years AJ tried to make a fight with Fury"

60-40 and one-way rematch clauses don't count. And Joshua (or his team) ducked Fury in December 2022:

https://www.boxingforum24.com/threa...ucking-of-fury-in-bombshell-interview.694541/

"He offered Usyk 30% and still couldn't make the fight after Usyk accepted."

Usyk never accepted 30% with no strings, he wanted 70% in the more lucrative rematch if he won the first fight. And the fight may well still happen.

"This man has no decent wins on his resume"

There's never been a decent win in boxing history by that standard.

"he doesn't have any of the eloquence of Ali, just false and hateful diatribe."

Ali: "kill race mixers", "white people are uniquely inherently evil"

Manny Steward: "Fury is one of the best talkers in history, could potentially out-talk Ali"

"Let's ignore this complete twit,"

Great job following your own advice by making a thread about him!

 

Fury gets in with men who nobody has an easy fight with and toys with them. That's the difference. Fury on form is the highest of calibre. The best of the best. Yet you'd rate a bodybuilders resume higher because you're dim.

 

Does anyone else think of AJ was more of a champ than Fury. He didn't hesitate to fight Uysk even with that huge payday at risk. Fury won't ever fight anyone with more than a 10% chance of winning

 

Yes.

Fury is the better fighter, but AJ was a fighting champ, which is why I appreciated him.

 

The American journalistic fraternity voting to elevate fighters in a weak American heavyweight scene.
Hmm... There might be some bias there.

 

We've argued this at length in the past. The vast majority of TBRB voting members were from America.

Whilst I do think TBRB has good rankings. Trying to rubber stamp Fury's "lineage" through the Wilder fight was not the smartest move, especially when Joshua had been trying to make undisputed.