Fury-Usyk-Wilder-Joshua-Chisora results comparison (simplified and omitting the filler)

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  1. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fury’s wins: Wlad (39, away, underdog), Wilder x2 (34, away, underdog, 35, away)

    Fury’s draw: Wilder (33, away, underdog)

    3-0-1


    Usyk’s wins: Briedis (33, away), Joshua x2 (31, away, underdog, 32, away)

    3-0


    Wilder’s win: Ortiz (38, home)

    Wilder’s draw: Fury (30, home)

    Wilder’s losses: Fury x2 (31, home, 33, home, underdog)

    1-2-1


    Joshua’s wins: Wlad (41, home), Povetkin (39, home)

    Joshua’s losses: Ruiz (29, away), Usyk x2 (34, home, 35, home, underdog)

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    Chisora's losses: Fury x3 (22, neutral, 26, neutral, underdog, 34, neutral, underdog), Vitali (40, away, underdog), Haye (31, neutral, underdog), Usyk (33, home, underdog)

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    Redbeard7, Mar 26, 2023
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  2. Beale

    Beale Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Without being disrespectful this means nothing at all.

    The only way to prove anything is Joshua v Fury having 12 x 3 minutes in the ring.
     
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  3. hobby rider

    hobby rider Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Certified ducks of Usyk

    Fury - 1
    Joshua - 0
     
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  4. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "The only way to prove anything"

    So if two fighters don't fight (for whatever reason), their respective records mean nothing? That's an impossible standard to hold with any coherence.
     
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  5. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    Fury is a holding a protected 0
    Big john took his 0`s virginity
    This is common knowledge
    Now remembering how fury did the deal with wilder saying how easy it was
    You think he got wilder taking 30%
    Lol
    Fury as ducked the middleweight
     
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  6. MAD_PIGE0N

    MAD_PIGE0N ... banned Full Member

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    Ruiz was an underdog.
     
    MAD_PIGE0N, Mar 26, 2023
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  7. Heisenberg

    Heisenberg @paulmillsfitness Full Member

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    There’s no impartiality, so really means nothing. Fury fans will big up his CV and play down his many flaws and contradictions. Just as AJ fans will claim their man has the better CV and ignore his limitations and indiscretions. Fans see what they want to see. You’ll never change anyone’s opinion.
     
    Heisenberg, Mar 26, 2023
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  8. Ding ding ding!

    Ding ding ding! Active Member Full Member

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    I don't understand why some fans need the constant comparisons to the other. Why can't people just judge fighters in their own right?

    Baffling that just because Fury has ducked undisputed people suddenly feel the need to remind everyone about Joshua's limitations. Pretty sure most boxing fans are fully aware of those by now.
     
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  9. BrokerNYC

    BrokerNYC Dubai Full Member

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    It’s banter pal, what we’re here for. Banter and discuss opinions, if we wanted news we’d go onto a news site
     
    BrokerNYC, Mar 27, 2023
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  10. Ding ding ding!

    Ding ding ding! Active Member Full Member

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    Fair enough bud. I find all the OTT fanaticism and turning of Fury discussions into Joshua (and vice versa) dull as **** personally but each to their own.

    The time to judge them against each other is at the end of their careers when you're talking records imo as things could yet change drastically.
     
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  11. BoxingAddick

    BoxingAddick Active Member Full Member

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    Its not an impossoble standard to hold when both men are fighting in the same division at the same time FFS, the facts are Fury has a better record, Fury looks the more complete fighter, Fury has form for ducking, we will pnly know how the fight goes if they fight each other
     
    BoxingAddick, Mar 27, 2023
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  12. 08Horacio08

    08Horacio08 Member banned Full Member

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    is beting povetkin supposed to be really good?
     
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  13. Jolly Roger

    Jolly Roger Active Member Full Member

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    In the old days two guys would fight to find out who is best. Unfortunately Fury torpedoed negotiations last time with his ridiculous deadline, and now I doubt he will ever take the fight.
     
    Jolly Roger, Mar 27, 2023
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  14. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think he is a bit overrated round here but he's still a quality fighter. Olympic gold medallist and one of the best heavyweights to never win a title.

    One fight after Joshua had KO'd him in 7 he beat a non-green Hughie in more convincing fashion than Parker over 12, two fights after Joshua at 40 he got a draw with Hunter over 12 (who gave Usyk his 5th most competitive fight) and three fights after Joshua at almost 41 he got off the canvas twice to knock Whyte (who'd given Joshua a 7 round war, beat Parker, KO'd Chisora) spark out in 5. The only other fighter to ever beat non-corpse Povetkin was Wlad via Greco-Roman shutout and Povetkin still showed a very good chin, stamina and an unwillingness to quit. And Wilder's team did avoid Povetkin in 2016, just as team Joshua wanted no part of Ortiz in 2017.
     
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  15. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I know, Joshua wasn't and that's why it's blank.
     
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