Is there anyone who could school 67 Ali?

Imagine casually dismissing Mike Tyson's friend, mentor, manager and owner of the larger collection of boxing film as irrelevant.

 

In order to question the granite-like chin of Muhammad Ali you cite his knockdown from Henry Cooper's
left-hook,when Ali was still a relatively slender youngster who had yet to reach physical maturity.Straw-clutching at it's very worst.
By the way,why on Earth do you say Ali was ''going life and death with Cooper '' ?.This is absolute nonsense.The same goes for your assertion that Ali struggled with Mildenberger.
Again,absolute nonsense.
Your latest argument for Usyk's superiority over Ali is that Uysk defeated the 6' 6'',240-245 lbs,accomplished Anthony Joshua.Really
The same Anthony Joshua who was stopped in the 7th round by the 6',medically obese Andy Ruiz.The same Anthony Joshua who would have stopped by Ali well before the final bell.
The same Anthony Joshua who would have been defeated far more conclusively by Ali than Joshua was by Usyk.

 

Jacobs was a declared Ali fan, that's all the evidence one needs.

 

Imagine Ali fanboys not being butthurt.

 

The first round saw Cooper unusually aggressive, as he laid into Clay, rushing him to the ropes and immediately trying to land his left hook. Clay, who was bleeding from the nose, was roughed up by Cooper, and he complained to referee Tommy Little about the Englishman's rough tactics. Cooper clearly won the first round, and the crowd was going crazy.

Round two saw Cooper again trying to rough up the American. In this round, however, Clay was more composed as he glided out of the way and began to pump the left jab with enough accuracy to have Cooper nicked by his right eye. It was Clay's round.

The third round saw Clay moving gracefully as Cooper pursued. As Cooper moved in closer, Clay threw a chopping right hand that opened a gash on Cooper's left eyebrow. It seemed only a matter of time before eye trouble would once again thwart "Our 'Enry". Clay played with Cooper for the rest of the round, standing right in front of him, opening his arms and generally trying to humiliate Cooper.

Before round four, one of Clay's managers, William Faversham, shouted to his man to stop messing about and to get down to work. This Clay did, though he still would not go all out. He had predicted a fifth-round win and appeared to carry Cooper until he decided enough was enough.

With seconds remaining at the end of the fourth round, Cooper unleashed a savage left hook, "Enry's 'Ammer". The punch landed bang on Clay's jaw and he fell, backwards on to the ropes and then down. He got up at the count of four, then the bell sounded. There was pandemonium in Wembley Stadium.

https://boxrec.com/wiki/index.php/Muhammad_Ali_vs._Henry_Cooper_(1st_meeting)

It appears a young Ali f--ked around and almost found out, doesn't seem like a life and death struggle.


https://boxrec.com/wiki/index.php/Muhammad_Ali_vs._Henry_Cooper_(1st_meeting)


The fight was scored by rounds. At the time of the stoppage, Referee Teddy Waltham had Ali ahead (of Mildenberger) 7-2-2, and Judges Felix Ohlet and Nat Fleischer (editor of The Ring magazine) each had Ali leading 7-3-1. The Associated Press had Ali in front 9-1-1

I'll let our friends on this board decide if it was a highly competitive match.

 

So according to you,if someone admires the ability of a fighter it completely invalidates
their opinion of the fighter being discussed ?

 

If you believe your boxing knowledge is greater than that of the man who managed Wilfred Benitez, Edwin Rosario, and Mike Tyson and has the largest collection of boxing film in the history of the sport there is nothing I can do to disabuse you of that notion.

 

To our friend that mentioned Ali was stopped as an amateur. He turned pro at 18. He could have been 16 at the time of the stoppage. He might have weighed a buck sixty five.

 

Having the largest collection doesn't mean jack ****. And it's not about me being more knowledgeable, it's about him not being objective.

 

Yes, but it's not just admiration, it's fanboy realm, that's why he is not objective.

 

Do you not see the absurdity of relying on your

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So why I Earth would Jim Jacobs fail to be objective about Muhammad Ali ? You still haven't
answered the question.

 

Keep it up mate.You are doing an admirable job shooting down their ridiculous opinions !

 

Jacobs didn't feel Ali was not the only fastest heavyweight in the history of the sport but the fastest boxer in the history of the sport he actually measured the speed with a synchronizer. It's like saying I feel Michael Jordan had the highest vertical of any NBA player. It was actually measured and it was forty eight inches.

 

Absolutely.Jim Jacobs was indeed a passionate boxing fan,but he also approached boxing in a
very nuanced,forensic way.He wouldn't make such declarations without sound,thorough research.