Joe Joyce is now the defacto #1 HW

I actually liked Valuev. More so for the side so attraction due to his size. He was interesting at the least.

 

Mate, you've either drunk too much or not enough for claiming stuff like that.

Fury just ducked him for the second time - and it was even worse and even more blatant than last year. Fury's popularity duly took a nose dive and people put him next to Bowe as the biggest ducks in boxing history.

Usyk already beat Joyce who has only got slower since then. The Juggernaut is a good fighter but the experience you get for beating Dubois or Parker won't set you up against Usyk. Joe would still be too slow for him.

And Wilder? Lol. That's one of your better jokes, I'll give you that. Much lesser and slower fighters than Usyk have already outboxed Wilder before. An ancient Ortiz was winning on the cards against him, and journeymen Szpilka and Washington gave him plenty of problems. They eventually got caught only because they got either careless or tired. Neither would happen to Usyk who is immensely superior to those guys in all aspects and only gets even more focused and faster as the fight goes on. What, do you think Stiverne could go 12 rounds with Wilder without getting knocked out but Usyk wouldn't?

Usyk is the top dog in the HW division now, mate. He is the true undisputed and lineal due to Fury ducking him. I know Fury disappointed you, but it's your fault - you should have seen him for the cowardly con man he is a long time ago.

 

Yes, but you are...you.

 

You could rank Joyce at 3 or 4th .. Can't wait to see how he does against the big hock from China

 

I like Joyce, but he aint it. Not yet. If he beats Zhang he is for sure nb1. contender. Zhang fight will say it all, and I applaud him for taking such a risky fight. True balls, unlike Joshua and Fury.

 

Agree , Joyce is largely untested. ...And old... and slow....

But I like what he brings to the table. But he is probably already past his prime.

 

That's exactly my thoughts too, regarding both current versions of Joyce & Fury.

If Fury relies on his come forward Kronk style against Joyce then I see Joyce taking anything Fury lands early on and Fury eventually failing in the championship rounds.

 

I'll use whatever adjectives I want to describe a circumstance. You can go virtue signal to someone who actually cares about the bull**** you spewing.

 

I doubt you will be allowed to, & should not be permitted to bring down the decency & tenor of this forum.
It is disingenuous to impy you need to use a homophobic slur to refer to anyone.
No better than associating say criminality, violence, stupidity with beiong black by throwing around the "N word".

Do you really purport to know that I am trying to putting on an act or show?
So anyone who objects to vicious or mocking associations with weakness or various inferiority with sexuality, gender, or race is putting on airs?

Nope, you at least have no reason to make that negative assumption.
Also your ego is triggered because you are called out as using Hate Speech...
When you wanna be free to use contemptuous language to associate putting down a much maligned group to act macho.

It is more likely

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need to feel secure & good about yourself by denigrating gays-even if you are not denying this tendency in yourself-than anyone who objects to cruel language against them is "virtue signaling".

What's next, the irrational but thoughtlessly partisan cliche of...objecting to putting down a race or religion in stereotypically negative ways is being "politically correct"?

"Your right to extend your fist ends where someone's else nose begins".
You will notice that likely nobody will defend you.
Since the vast majority are better or more evolved than being able to respect themselves if they attack or taunt in the ugly, mean way you id.

In a private forum that cares about being gratuitously malicious to oppressed groups, you'll be stopped.
Like here I bet.
Unless you again offend, or offer a personal attack, I'll kindly avoid reporting you for abuse this time.
You're welcome.

 

JJ should destroy Zhang, which wouldn't shock me as he's a better fighter and I almost always go with the boxer over the banger. Definitely looking forward to this one! These guys are so huge, with loads of stamina and workrate, it's bound to be a barn-burner!

Obviously, if Zhang can land that big left clean a decent amount of times, we will have a more complete picture of just how awesome Joyce's rock-hard chin is. I think he has what it takes to weather the storm and eventually grind Big Bang down for a later-rounds TKO with Zhang still on his feet.

 

Are you gay? Have I insulted you? You seem to have a proclivity for preaching. Are you a priest per chance? Don't threaten me.

 

Imagine how low can you become (literally the level of the prolific clown lordlosh) in your love for a fighter when you claim he's the best heavyweight and a lineal (when he isn't) for beating:
- Chazz
- Chisora
- AJ

That's a very sad record. No matter if the fighter was great at cruiser, he's not pretending amongst the cruisers anymore.

As for Joyce being the number 1 now - I doubt it. The guy isn't as active as he should be and is old, has no time. He's strong, but one-dimensional and slow, which questions how he can perform against some of the other tops, but is seen as a trouble for a reason. As for his loss in some 5-rounds fight against Usyk - it is what it is, but has nothing to do with the fighters they're now. It's similar to bringing Usyk amateur losses - what does that serve for?

 

Ring magazine and TBRB both consider Usyk to be champion. Personally, I think this needs settling in the ring.

Johnson v Jeffries
Walcott v Marciano
Frazier v Ali
Holmes v Ali
Tyson v Spinks
Holyfield v Lewis
now
Usyk v Fury

The boxing world needs this fight. No more blathering on about being the man. Time to settle it.

 

I liked him, too. His fight with Monte Barrett is particularly fun to watch. I love the "Sugar" Valuev nickname. I wish he would've adopted that as a pro. It just makes me laugh every time.