Fury vs. Usyk is OFF, says Usyk's manager

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Melankomas, Mar 21, 2023.


Who's at fault

  1. Usyk

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  2. Fury

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  1. tee_birch

    tee_birch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    60/40 Fury with no rematch clause

    70/30 Fury with rematch clause of 60/40 Usyk

    That seems fair to me

    Edit: 50/50-60/40 is what I actually deem fair. The above seems realistic in terms of where the negotiations were headed.

    Fury didn’t want it. Simple as that
     
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  2. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    £80m between Usyk & Fury isn't enough for a fight of this magnitude in 2023. That is also highly dependent on the PPV sales. After taxes & after Zelensky takes his cut from Usyk both would end up with pocket change. Fury would take home at best £25m.

    You think that is good money? It's fight for free and fun or for ludicrous money. No inbetween...Usyk & Fury are DONE WITH BOXING. People don't understand that yet.

    Floyd & Pacquiao got nearly $100m a piece 8 years ago for a fight between shot to pieces midgets in a borefest

    Both Usyk & Fury should be getting that & more and the only way that is possible is Saudi money...

    Fury Wilder III should have been big money but wasn't because people DKSAB.

    Also when you fight in Saudi you think UK government is taking half of Fury's earnings? HELL NAH TO THE NAH NAH NAH.

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  3. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fury failed a test for steroids in march 2015 and used his lawyers to keep it hidden he should of never been allowed to fight for the title to even be stripped of it he is just a steroid cheat just like baby miller.. Fury proceeded to retire right before the news was released that he was a cheat. and relinquished all his belts before he would of been stripped stripped originally you said the IBF stripped him in August.

    My point is this the Drug cheat should of never been allowed to fight for the titles and then subsequently retire to avoid punishment ( being stripped) since that he should never of been a titleholder until he beat wilder.

    Oh on your last note I usually don't read yours or redbeards B.S because you are both up Fury's backside that you much like Shadow with Canello it's useless to respond as your fandom denies you of common sense.
     
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  4. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Cool story bro

    You're talking utter PISH and you know it.

    24 June 2016 is when UKAD informed both Hughie & Tyson. There was no legal injunction.

    3.3 UKAD accepts that because Tyson Fury and Hughie Fury were not put on notice of their alleged UK ADR Article 2.1 violations until June 2016, and because no adverse analytical findings or adverse passport findings were reported in respect of any of the urine and/or blood samples collected from them after February 2015 (including from Tyson Fury on 11 May 2015, 16 July 2015, 8 October 2015, 17 October 2015, 11 November 2015, 13 July 2016, and 4 May 2017; and from Hughie Fury on 11 May 2015, 25 July 2015, 8 October 2015, 17 October 2015, 14 November 2015, 18 July 2016, 29 September 2016, 18 February 2017, 19 April 2017, 8 August 2017, 29 August 2017, and 23 September 2017), therefore in accordance with UK ADR Article 10.8 the competition results they obtained in their fights after February 2015 should not be disqualified.

    Don't mess with real G's you pathetic little man. You've had your pants pulled down in front of everyone.
     
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  5. spravedlivylev

    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

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    I almost missed your bull**** while you were banned, mate.

    Almost.

    So what’s next for the almighty Fury, a mud wrestling match against Richard Simmons in Las Vegas? Retirement for 17 seconds? A hot dog eating contest? Some more of that WWE crap?

    Exciting times to be a Fury fan, eh?
     
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  6. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    You're just mad the Saudi's are cooking an egg with Fury's name on it with Usyk, AJ & Wilder fighting to get a seat at the table. Usyk just needs to prevent the belt mafia from stripping him.
     
  7. MAD_PIGE0N

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    You think he can hide a doping test from the sanctioning bodies? Or once they know he tested positive, proven of cheating, they won't strip him from their belts and declare the fight no contest? Ok, so be it, maybe your objective "common sense" can answer why Usyk is not defending any title for 7 months already, while Fury was stripped from his IBF one 10 days after winning it for not defending a mandatory - this is my entire saying on which you brought a ton of nonsense. Now you can join the h*mo club of Usyk fans - sopolivilev and lordlosh will welcome you accordingly.

    By the way, many of you forget Wlad's cheating prior the fight. The same type of cheating Pulev reported, but because he was rather nobody, no attention was paid to his claims.
     
  8. spravedlivylev

    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

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    Haha, if only Fury himself was this confident. I’m a member of several boxing groups and people are sending in screenshots about being threatened by this worthless scums cousins or whatever in private messages Imagine the bloody insecurity when your inbred, uneducated criminal horde of relatives try to harass and intimidate people on FB just because they said “Fury should retire, I’m sick of him”

    I’m sure you’ll put on your usual an “Fury is awesome, I love his bits” act upon hearing this but you worship a despicable criminal, man. He doesn’t give a sh*t about you and his criminal relatives would bash your f*cking head in for 2 quids and laugh about it, mate - just sayin’.
     
  9. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Sounds like you got a bad driveway job.
     
  10. MAD_PIGE0N

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    Worth mentioning this is officially from the UKAD website: [url]UKAD and Mr Tyson Fury and Mr Hughie Fury issue joint statement | UK Anti-Doping[/url]. Also that nandrolone is one of the steroids with the longest life in your system - can be detected more than a year after you stop taking it. Also, it's proven consuming wild boar can raise its levels ([url]Consequence of boar edible tissue consumption on urinary profiles of nandrolone metabolites. II. Identification and quantification of 19-norsteroids responsible for 19-norandrosterone and 19-noretiocholanolone excretion in human urine - PubMed (nih.gov)[/url]. So if Fury really used some nandrolone, but was clear by May 2015, imagine when was the last time he used it. Whether that's the case we'll never know, maybe one day, when old, he'll confess many things as Mike Tyson did.
     
  11. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Also it's produced naturally in the body

    [url]https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/36/5/325[/url]

    They are still developing methods to test for it because false positives are possible, even the levels detected in tests are open to debate.

    The abuse of the steroid testosterone presented a new problem for drug control in sport.[url]42[/url] Perhaps the same can now be said for nandrolone. According to the Olympic movement anti-doping code, NA is not a prohibited substance.[url]77[/url] However, should NA in the urine exceed a certain threshold concentration, the interpretation is that nandrolone has been ingested or injected. There is strong scientific evidence to show that NA can appear in the urine of people free of exogenous nandrolone. Evidence suggests that NA may occur as an intermediate in the aromatisation of testosterone to oestrogen. Recent evidence has shown that the amount of NA in the urine can be regulated by the administration of human chorionic gonadotrophin. Therefore, threshold concentrations for men (2 ng/ml) and women (5 ng/ml) as defined by the IOC are still open to debate because conclusive scientific evidence showing how these values may be altered by various physiological stimuli is lacking. In accordance with this, multicentre studies need to answer further specific questions on the current urine threshold concentrations for nandrolone metabolites and whether physiological stressors and permitted supplement interventions can alter NA excretion.

    For Fury to have knowingly taken an anabolic steroid for title eliminator Christian Hammer who couldn't touch him with 10 foot pole makes no sense to me...but we've seen plenty of fighters fail tests for even more stupid things right before big paydays. Maybe people just have to accept the sport is dirty which it clearly is on every level. As long as they prevent people from Roiding to the gills or blood doping for a perceivable advantage that's all that matters. no heart, no skills or no chin can't be fixed with drugs. Wilder was looking pretty suspect in that 3rd Fury bout at 240 now he's back down to his natural weight of 201 pounds.
     
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  12. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bloody hell, I'm only 3 minutes in and Frank has already told a bare faced lie about Chisora and the WBC.:eusa_liar:

    Still over half and hour to go. This should be good...:facepalm:
     
  13. FrankinDallas

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    Fury support up to 6%! It's madness, I tell you, madness!
     
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  14. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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  15. spravedlivylev

    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

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    Nah, we are not in the same profession, mate.

    At least you didn’t try to make it look like it’s a cool thing when criminals threat civilians over some FB comments so good for you, I guess.