Fury - Usyk

Holyfield was not a KO puncher though (despite being bigger than pumped up 5'10, 71 inch reach Mike Tyson), so he must be boring by your own stated standards.

You're a dishonest hypocrite who engages in stupid hyperbole. The Fury-Wilder trilogy is up there with any in heavyweight history. It was more dramatic than Bowe-Holyfield because there was a real feeling that it could end at any moment, with 10 KD's and 2 KO's to back that up.

If you liked Fury you wouldn't make claims like "Fury's had three exciting fights in his career". I'm done here.

 

The "absolute snoozefest" was statistically the best 12 round defensive performance by a challenger ever, against the P4P No.2.

Lewis's best wins are a controversial stoppage against Vitali in a fight he was losing and a cautious decision over a near-Ruiz Holyfield, who'd been KO'd in 8 by Bowe 4 years prior. Despite having massive physical advantages, much more power and Holyfield's ex-trainer in his corner, he still lacked the confidence in his chin, stamina, skills etc. to take it out of the hands of the American judges who had denied him the first time.

24-5 crackhead McCall and 8 years boxing experience Rahman were inferior boxers to Olympic bronze medallist 40-0 long-reigning champ Wilder (as well as inferior athletes, with less power, less range and less experience) but they both banjoed Lewis with one shot on away or neutral territory.

Anyone who thinks that Lewis comes through three fights with Wilder away and a fight with Wlad away without being KO'd needs their head testing.

Lewis also fought no southpaws of any note in his career and veteran sparring partner Scott has confirmed that Usyk is more skilled than Lewis, Wlad, Fury and Ortiz. No evidence that Lewis (or anyone else who'd never even fought a southpaw) would beat the GOAT southpaw HW and good evidence to believe Usyk would win, given his vast SHW experience, training with Wlad and Vitali and schooling Joshua in Britain.

 

Even though it contains the lowest punch statistics in world heavyweight title history? That sounds like the equivalent of being the best looking guy in a burns unit.

 

That's the point: world title debut 4/1 underdog Fury limited the P4P No.2 to the fewest landed punches ever by a champion over 12 rounds, in the champion's backyard and won 8-4/9-3. Wlad landed fewer punches on Fury over 12 than Wach and Povetkin (Greco-Roman) landed on him. If it were easy I'm sure slickster Byrd or whoever would have done it, rather than getting schooled and pulverised.

As far as "hit and not get hit" (especially "not get hit") goes it's the GOAT performance, like it or not.

No it's not rockem sockem but there's always Fury-Wilder 3 or lower down the levels a Babic fight if you prefer that.

 

Well you're not really going to be throwing a lot of punches if the other guy is making it difficult for you to get them off

 

So you thought the Wlad fight was exciting?
Also that was a terrible performance from Wlad- he was far from his best on the night.

I don't know why you are such a staunch Fury fanatic. I suppose it was Usyk's fault the fight went through?
And Fury really did donate his entire purse to charity?

 

maybe he wasn't at his best because he was up against fury and not Leapai lol... just a thought

Also don't know why you get personal with him. Is it cuz you can't win the argument with logic?

 

I just find it hard to believe how Captain Red Beard or anyone else can think Fury is better than Lewis.

Lewis wanted to fight the best in a great heavyweight era.
Fury fights the worst he can get away with in a poor heavyweight era.

 

And also a couple of questions for you-
Do you think Usyk was to blame for the fight falling through?

And do you believe Fury donated his entire purse to charity?

 

I’m not sure debating Fury’s CV favourably is mutually exclusive with absolving him of all responsibility for his misdemeanours.

It’s a bit of a straw man argument really.

 

Comparing Fury with Holyfield too, I think the trolls only watch boxers that can’t punch and like to dabble with steroids.

 

I'm sure it was exciting to many at the time (seeing the all-conquering KO artist champion get schooled in Germany as the clock counts down) but it's not so exciting when you know the twist. Still, I love the fight. Pure comedy watching Fury clown invincible 11 year undefeated champ Wlad in his backyard.

Wlad was far from his best that night because Fury is a phenomenon, many thought Wlad was excellent at 41 against Joshua in Britain 17 months later. Wilder 2, Chisora 2 and Whyte also had the worst nights of their career when Fury came in at or near his best.

Fury should drop the "man of the people" façade imo but I understand why he does it. Most people are dullards and they hated him when he was more authentic.

If it was anyone's fault it was team Fury's, my position in these situations is always that the side who doesn't offer 50-50 is largely to blame. Hopefully the fight happens before it's lost its lustre, as Beterbiev-Bivol has.

 

That's a fair comment.

I was just seeing if the 2 posters who were bigging Fury up also stuck up for his unquestionably dodgy antics or were strictly about his accomplishments in the ring

 

Lewis was always the bigger guy against all decent opponents except Vitali and only won that because doctor stopped it. Would've lost otherwise. He would be outsized by all the best of this era except Usyk who would box the ears off him. Lewis was stiff

I think they are both to blame as they both want Saudi money

I have no idea. How am I supposed to know that? lol

 

Lack of integrity and morals matey. Low lifes who have yellow streaks in them and have no accountability.