Whyte v Chisora 3

I'd watch it but it belongs as a support on a big card. Chisora's not punch drunk though, he's always been brain damaged.

 

I too had Chisora nicking the first fight in a very close battle that you couldn't really argue against either man having there hand raised when all said and done..... but for me on the night, I thought Chisora edged it.

Obviously the 2nd fight was a conclusive late finish from Whyte with a great shot to end matters.

On my card (which means absolutely **** all) its 1-1 so bombs away for the trilogy lol

 

Endless.

As long as there's a hole in your arse and there is money to flood out of it.

 

Wait - Ortiz ‘ducked’ Charles Martin?

Oh I see why you’d go with that.. Ortiz - (Wilder’s best win), scared to fight Martin (one of Joshua’s lesser opponents) ergo; Joshua is better than Wilder? That’s generally how Mitch logic goes I think!

 

"Wilder proves himself not coward in a ring?"

By not quitting when the going got tough, as Joshua did against Ruiz and not looking to KO in the rematch after the most humiliating defeat ever. Ortiz also got dropped multiple times by Ruiz, he got up and kept on boxing even though his 43 year old legs were betraying him. Went 12 rounds and won a majority of the rounds on the cards (19/36) despite your prediction of Ruiz KO'ing him.

The 30-0, 38 year old Ortiz that Wilder fought first time would have schooled or stopped Ruiz, everyone knows it. Even the Wilder 2 Ruiz would have outboxed him, which is why Ruiz tried to duck 43 year old 2 KO defeat Ortiz to sign with Triller and fight kickboxer Spong in Mexico instead.

https://www.badlefthook.com/2022/4/...uiz-jr-fighting-tyrone-spong-boxing-news-2022

Wilder will go for broke if things aren't going his way, whereas Joshua would rather cruise to a points decision even though he's losing. We saw this clearly in the Fury-Wilder trilogy and the Usyk-Joshua fights.

Joshua has NO HEART compared to Wilder. Also an inferior chin to Wilder: Fury has stopped Cunningham, Chisora, Hammer and Whyte in addition to Wilder x2, whereas Ruiz has stopped no one worth talking about, save Joshua.

Whyte got KO'd cold in his backyard in 5 by a horribly diminished Povetkin who was one fight away from being a far lesser fighter than prime Dave Allen (based on their respective performances against Whyte), you can scratch that clown from the list for a start. Chisora just said that 44 year old Ortiz was a "hard night at the office", implying that Whyte isn't by comparison. If Whyte was serious then he'd have been able to land at least one meaningful headshot over 6 rounds against Fury before getting one-shotted.

Hearn/Joshua never offered Wilder 50-50 because they weren't that keen on the fight, it was all about manipulating public perceptions and fighting tame gatekeepers like Takam and Parker in the meantime, the Ruiz fight was a huge blunder against a 25/1 underdog who they believed was featherfisted and useless. Takam hasn't KO'd or KD'd any of his 10 best opponents, Parker hasn't KO'd any of his best 11, including Cojanu (KO'd in 2 by Ortiz the fight after) and Fa (KO'd in 1 by Browne the fight after). These were fake opponents in reality.

8/9 of Joshua's last opponents have been light punchers because Hearn has no confidence in Joshua's chin or heart when hit by some big bombs.

Team Wilder did avoid Wlad in 2015 and Povetkin in 2016, imo. Most of the others you mention are risible or very questionable to say the least. And since 2018 Wilder's fought very strong opposition consistently.

Why did Whyte fight unknown Forrest SD Franklin over notable Fury opponent Wallin? Why did he duck the fight?

 

Martin? Who 42 year old Ortiz wasted in 6?

Also funny because Takam pulled out of the Ortiz fight to fight Duhaupas (which also didn't happen)

https://www.*******.com/takam-take-pass-on-luis-ortiz-focus-on-duhaupas--109566

Imagine if Ortiz had pulled out of a fight with Takam lmao, we'd never hear the end of it.

 

Wilder going down from soft body shot that didn't get is not displaying toughness.

AJ didn't quit, he tried to drag out the time he was allowed to recover because he's the A side and rightly the ref called him on his BS. Unlike the ref for Wilder when he rocked by Ortiz.

Hearn having no confidence in AJ? He just put with the all time greatest CW and most skilled boxer in the divison (that Fury has just ducked from). AJ has fought the likes power punchers such as Wlad, Whyte and Povetkin. A technical boxer who has one of the best jabs in division in Pulev. The two HWs with the quickest hands in the division in Ruiz and Parker.

Ruiz beat Ortiz recently and would of beaten Ortiz prior to losing to Wilder. Ortiz never has beata ntrue world level opponent whilst Ruiz became unified champ beating the number 1 HW in the division with clearly the best record at the time.

Yet Wilder is beating guys no where near that quality in Helenius, Stiverne, Ortiz, Breazeale and Washington.

 

We really need to clean out these bums and get some new blood in.

 

And Whyte going Bambi on ice from an uppercut which half-connected is? Or Joshua getting torn to shreds and quitting against a fighter with zero notable KO's (and zero since Joshua, failing to stop 40+ Arreola and 43 year old Ortiz). Wilder has never shown the level of fragility that those clowns have.

Joshua 100% quit, he ignored the referees instructions for a prolonged period of time, spat out the gumshield to show he didn't want it, laid back on the ropes when asked "do you want to go?" It was a quitjob. If Wilder had done the same, would you be saying he didn't quit?

Yes the doctor gave Wilder an extra 20 seconds against Ortiz and that was corrupt. But you can't admit the obvious fact that Joshua had a bodyguard referee for 12 rounds against Parker. He's as much an A-side fighter as Wilder ever was.

No confidence in Joshua's chin. They were confident of robbing Usyk after the Chisora fight. Joshua hasn't fought Wlad or Whyte since 2015-2017, which by your own standards shouldn't count for much (you claimed Fury's win over P4P No.2 champ Wlad was too far removed in 2018/2019). Povetkin is the sole puncher (and he wasn't in good KO form when Joshua fought him) that Joshua's fought in his last 9, fact. Because they are worried about Joshua's glass heart and weak chin.

I don't want to hear about rubbish like Pulev, Takam and Parker, these were not more risky than Breazeale in Britain with those A-side cards and bodyguard refs. Ruiz turned out to be dangerous but only because Joshua was very vulnerable, basically a higher level prime David Price, lower level prime Wlad.

Before the Helenius fight he was "high Euro level" and "too dangerous for Wilder". He'd taken Chisora and Whyte 12 rounds. Now Wilder's sparked him in 1 he's no good lmao. Same with Breazeale, who took Joshua 7 and was a "solid fringe contender" on Takam's level before Wilder levelled him. Even washed up obese Stiverne took Joyce 6. Liakhovich took Ruiz the 10 round distance and was competitive post-Wilder. So if all these boxers suck, Chisora, Whyte, Joshua, Joyce and Ruiz must all suck too in doing such poor jobs relative to Wilder.

 

I meant Martin ducked Hrgovic not Ortiz.

Ortiz ducked AJ and Whyte.

 

What half connected uppercut on Whyte?

Wilder has been dropped by two low level journeymen in Scroniers and Nichols. Dropped multiple times by Fury. Rocked by Molina and Ortiz. This whilst avoiding power punchers in the division such as Wlad, AJ, Povetkin and Whyte.

Bodyguard ref against Parker? What are you on about?

Breazeale as good as Pulev, Parker and Takam lol. That mental. Never heard anyone claim that on this forum.

Takam is Ortiz level. Parker and Pulev are levels above Ortiz. Parker actually has a better record than Wilder. Pulev record on par with Wilder.

 

Don’t forget Johann Duhaupas who was absolute dog crap! He should never have contested a WBC belt.

 

Joshua and Whyte both ducked Ortiz: Joshua in 2017 and Whyte fought the less risky, more lucrative Chisora instead. In 2019 Ortiz was with PBC and fought Wilder in a rematch (who had already KO'd him when he was 30-0 and fresher) which was hardly a "cowardly" move.

 

Duhaupas was far better than Takam, Pulev and Parker (glorified bums) because he actually came to win. What he lacked in talent he made up for with size, toughness and determination. He also beat Vitali title challenger Charr and KO'd undefeated Helenius in Finland in 6 (which Chisora and Whyte failed to do over 12).

 

Now Duhaupas lol

Lol beating Charr an achievement...... you're embarrassing yourself now.