All-Time Welterweight Tournament

Because Hearns is a top 3 H2H WW of all time and Ross isn't.

Ross is greater p4p than Hearns, but he was never anything other than a natural LW, LWW at most.

To give you an idea of the extent to which Hearns is harder to beat at WW than Ross, consider:

1) If you started a Hearns vs Armstrong thread, I suspect the much bigger Hearns would win out comfortably over the natural LW Armstrong. Look what Armstrong did to Ross.
2) Same with most people taking Duran over Ross. Duran is generally ranked higher p4p than Ross and he's bigger. Look at what Hearns did to Duran.

I don't consider it debatable that a win over Hearns is greater than a win over Ross, at WW.

 

Hahaha touché

 

Thanks for pointing out the no particular order. Even so, they (Crawford and Spence) are not top 25 welters in my opinion. Not yet anyway.

 

We've all done it Frankus, myself multiple times mate. It's why i get in early and obvious like i did here, to spare others. Once it goes off track most are just responding to posts rather than reading the topic close and it'd the domino effect. Probably a fluke that i read it close enough myself!!!!

 

If you are going strictly H2H Flash feel free to insert Duran in there somewhere as he'd be taken at his best. We all saw Palomino and SRL 1. Tho Cuevas was declined i feel both turned back the clock a bit and he certainly still had booming power. IMO it gives a reasonable clue as to how best for best would go at 147. Duran too skilled and rock jawed.

 

Two Robinsons in the final...

 

Two "Sugar Ray's" for me.

 

Sorry. You're right; I'm drunk. Right now It's funny to me too.

 

I'm 5 or 6 beers in myself hahahahaha

 

A motivated Duran is at least a top 4 all time welterweight

 

He's certainly well up there mate.

 

Fair, but I don't think it's undebatable. You're underrating Ross in that regard

 

I don't think so. Ross was a p4p great (my #15 of all time) and a great natural LW with an impressive win resume at WW, despite never being a WW. No LW in history should be favoured over Hearns at WW, though.