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Anthony Oluwafemi Olaseni Joshua vs. Jermaine Franklin & Austin Williams vs. River Wilson-Bent RBR.

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If Franklin wins it's Buster Douglas 2.0 but better because AJ ain't out partying.

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Undercard is DAZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzN.
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I was going to ask about the undercard. Who wouldn't want to see Campbell Hatton throwing hands today.!
It's yard work for me till the main event.

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Alright... this is one of the rare times I'm going to do this, I'm actually rooting for Joshua to win tonight. Because he's gone from being one of the most overrated on the forum, to now one of the most underrated on the forum.

To the people picking AJ to lose to Franklin.... What the actual **** is wrong with you, seriously? Did you fall down and hit your heads? I historically am not even close to a fan of Anthony Joshua, in fact, I may be his P4P biggest hater on the site. But now you're all making me feel bad for him. Franklin doesn't see round 5 against Joshua.

Listen really close and comprehend what I'm going to tell you.

AJ has twice lost to Oleksandr Usyk.

I'll repeat that...... Oleksandr Usyk.

In case you didn't hear me the first two times, I'll say it a third time.... OLEKSANDR USYK.

Yes, I'm shouting at you.

Usyk is like Mayweather, there's no shame in losing to him, most do and will. So AJ losing to him twice, in the grand scheme of things... means NOTHING.

So not just anyone beats Anthony Joshua, and the mere fact that AJ-Fury and AJ-Wilder are still considered 50-50 fights by most intelligent boxing fans, tells you all you need to know about what level he's operating on. Yes, Ruiz beat him, yes.. I predicted Ruiz would beat him, due to hand speed, decent power and counter punching abilities. But still AJ lost, partially due to his overconfidence after he had him hurt. It's happened to countless fighters before, and will again. Regardless, Ruiz would also beat Franklin decisively. Not sure if you've noticed it or not, when it's a match that Dillian Whyte isn't enthusiastic about, he usually turns in a subpar, occasionally laborious effort. He did the same thing with Dave Allen, Robert Helenius and Mariusz Wach, which arguably could've been a draw. Now, did Whyte look far worse that day than he usually does when he looks subpar? Absolutely. Half of that is because he's nearing the end of his career, the other reason is, Buddy McGirt is a terrible trainer for him. Whyte wasn't being Whyte in there, he was attempting to box at range, and that's not a great idea against a guy with decent defense and good hand speed. However the moment Whyte stopped listening to Buddy, stopped dicking around and went for it in the 12th, he had Franklin reeling, badly hurt and all over the ring. Had the match continued another 30 seconds, he'd have probably stopped him. Yes, I scored the match in Franklin's favor, but that has more to do with what Whyte didn't do than what Franklin did do. That was a bored, passionless, lethargic shell of a man, half assing it, and he still probably did enough to get a draw.

The AJ that lost to Usyk twice, were the two best versions we've ever seen of AJ. He performed brilliantly against Usyk, actually managed to impress me of all people. That AJ beats 90% of Heavyweights, maybe even more. The only people I'd favor to beat him aside from Fury and Wilder, is Joyce, and stylistically, Michael Hunter, and my confidence has dropped as far as that goes at this point. And I still consider all 4 matches 60/40 or 50/50 type affairs. The rest get brutally KO'd. Now, do a few of the heavier handed Heavies stand a puncher's chance? Sure, it is Heavyweight boxing after all. But Franklin doesn't even have that going for him. He stands no chance.
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Great post and needed to be said. People act as though Joshua has become an insta-bum since losing to Usyk. It's laughable. Fury, who I previously regarded as the probable #1 in the division, swerved him like Neo dodging bullets. AJ is likely going to romp through this one and I for one look forward to him fighting one of the other big names in the division. He's hardly ever in a boring fight.

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FrankinDallas said: ↑

I was going to ask about the undercard. Who wouldn't want to see Campbell Hatton throwing hands today.!
It's yard work for me till the main event.
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Foamhands himself.

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Foamhands himself.
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Don't be a DAZN hater. 12 undercard fights is good value for money. Ok they mostly suck but still...

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CST80 said: ↑

Alright... this is one of the rare times I'm going to do this, I'm actually rooting for Joshua to win tonight. Because he's gone from being one of the most overrated on the forum, to now one of the most underrated on the forum.

To the people picking AJ to lose to Franklin.... What the actual **** is wrong with you, seriously? Did you fall down and hit your heads? I historically am not even close to a fan of Anthony Joshua, in fact, I may be his P4P biggest hater on the site. But now you're all making me feel bad for him. Franklin doesn't see round 5 against Joshua.

Listen really close and comprehend what I'm going to tell you.

AJ has twice lost to Oleksandr Usyk.

I'll repeat that...... Oleksandr Usyk.

In case you didn't hear me the first two times, I'll say it a third time.... OLEKSANDR USYK.

Yes, I'm shouting at you.

Usyk is like Mayweather, there's no shame in losing to him, most do and will. So AJ losing to him twice, in the grand scheme of things... means NOTHING.

So not just anyone beats Anthony Joshua, and the mere fact that AJ-Fury and AJ-Wilder are still considered 50-50 fights by most intelligent boxing fans, tells you all you need to know about what level he's operating on. Yes, Ruiz beat him, yes.. I predicted Ruiz would beat him, due to hand speed, decent power and counter punching abilities. But still AJ lost, partially due to his overconfidence after he had him hurt. It's happened to countless fighters before, and will again. Regardless, Ruiz would also beat Franklin decisively. Not sure if you've noticed it or not, when it's a match that Dillian Whyte isn't enthusiastic about, he usually turns in a subpar, occasionally laborious effort. He did the same thing with Dave Allen, Robert Helenius and Mariusz Wach, which arguably could've been a draw. Now, did Whyte look far worse that day than he usually does when he looks subpar? Absolutely. Half of that is because he's nearing the end of his career, the other reason is, Buddy McGirt is a terrible trainer for him. Whyte wasn't being Whyte in there, he was attempting to box at range, and that's not a great idea against a guy with decent defense and good hand speed. However the moment Whyte stopped listening to Buddy, stopped dicking around and went for it in the 12th, he had Franklin reeling, badly hurt and all over the ring. Had the match continued another 30 seconds, he'd have probably stopped him. Yes, I scored the match in Franklin's favor, but that has more to do with what Whyte didn't do than what Franklin did do. That was a bored, passionless, lethargic shell of a man, half assing it, and he still probably did enough to get a draw.

The AJ that lost to Usyk twice, were the two best versions we've ever seen of AJ. He performed brilliantly against Usyk, actually managed to impress me of all people. That AJ beats 90% of Heavyweights, maybe even more. The only people I'd favor to beat him aside from Fury and Wilder, is Joyce, and stylistically, Michael Hunter, and my confidence has dropped as far as that goes at this point. And I still consider all 4 matches 60/40 or 50/50 type affairs. The rest get brutally KO'd. Now, do a few of the heavier handed Heavies stand a puncher's chance? Sure, it is Heavyweight boxing after all. But Franklin doesn't even have that going for him. He stands no chance.
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Good post and it's definitely wishful thinking and/or intentional degradation of AJ's name for anyone to think he has a chance against Joshua.

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Is there some reason I always get the notice for these RBRs twice? Every time lol I dunno why.....not a big deal but something is not working right

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Even if he wins Bodybuilder is done. And "Donald Duck" Fury too.

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Is there some reason I always get the notice for these RBRs twice? Every time lol I dunno why.....not a big deal but something is not working right
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All the posters 2009 and older get 2 notifications as a way of being included

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RockyMarciano said: ↑

Is there some reason I always get the notice for these RBRs twice? Every time lol I dunno why.....not a big deal but something is not working right
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Yeah, for the Brit cards, I make one for the General and one for the British Forum.

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RockyMarciano said: ↑

Is there some reason I always get the notice for these RBRs twice? Every time lol I dunno why.....not a big deal but something is not working right
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At least you get one. Sniff...

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Good fight right now Flynn and Baker…

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Paulie Mags has stated he's heard a rumor that Franklin won't enter the ring unless he sees all the paperwork between the promoters.
He's entitled to seeing those documents in the US but what's the law in the UK?

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Joshua by Brutal KO.

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FrankinDallas said: ↑

Paulie Mags has stated he's heard a rumor that Franklin won't enter the ring unless he sees all the paperwork between the promoters.
He's entitled to seeing those documents in the US but what's the law in the UK?
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Just had a quick look at this.

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport...klin-sues-promoter-joshua-fight-b2310085.html

I wasn't aware Franklin had contractual issues.

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