Zora Folley vs. Larry Holmes

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  1. Melankomas

    Melankomas Corbett beats your favourite fighter

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    Folley was a solid heavyweight in the 50s and 60s, could he have beaten Holmes?
     
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  2. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    By the time that Zora Folley got a chance at the title on March 22 1967 against a peak champion Muhammad Ali, he was 34 years old, Ali stopped Folley by TKO 7. Folley had been in the ring against the likes of Sonny Liston, Brian London, Eddie Machen, Karl Mildenberger, and Ernie Terrell, he was also the first to defeat a raw Oscar Ringo Bonavena in 1965. Against Larry Holmes, Folley would have faced a fighter with a pole like left jab, similar to Liston's, also a fighter who was mobile like Ali was in their 1967 encounter. I think that Larry wears down Folley who makes a fight of it early. Holmes by TKO 8.
     
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  3. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    No, as good as a fighter he was, no way does Folley beat Holmes.
     
  4. ThatOne

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    He would be competitive and lose.
     
  5. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Holmes lacks prime Ali's speed and boxing skills to systematically destroy Folley but he'd wear him down for a TKO around 8, while dropping maybe a round or so in the process.
     
  6. Spreadeagle

    Spreadeagle Active Member Full Member

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    Zora Folley was a world-class fighter,first rate techician.However Mr Holmes is one of the four
    greatest heavyweight-champions in history so he would have to heavily,very heavily,favoured to
    beat Folley.
     
  7. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Zora Folley was a very skilled and underrated boxer. He might take a few rounds away from Holmes but in the end I think Larry wins. He was just a higher caliber fighter
     
  8. HolDat

    HolDat Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Zolley falls short again.
     
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  9. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No chance. This is right there with the Evangelista/Ocassio type title defenses for Larry. Easy nights work.
     
  10. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    OK I think this is a bit to far. Folley may not have been an ATG but he was legitimately one of the best fighters in the world at one point. Much better than Ocassio, and Evangelista.
     
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  11. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not fighting Holmes he isn't. Horrible matchup for him
     
  12. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Folley was the number one contender at one point. Evangelista and Ocassio were..... Evangelista and Ocassio. Folley was so much better than both of them.... like it's not even up for debate. He was also hell of a lot better than Renaldo Snipes.
     
  13. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Holmes is a horrible match for him. those jabs and occasional rights bust him up. And he won't land on a moving target. The only worse match is a prime foreman.
     
  14. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    this is about a particular matchup--not an evaluation of a guy's overall skills. Foley does very well against the Jimmy Ellis and Alex Stewarts and lots of guys. I sure do not see that against a Larry Holmes. You do. Fine.
     
  15. Richard M Murrieta

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    Zora Folley was the no.1 WBA contender when he fought a peak 25 year old champion Muhammad Ali on March 22 1967 in Madison Square Garden. Folley made a fight of it early but Ali's speed, reflexes, footwork and stamina were too much. After the bout, Ali was very gracious toward the 34 year old Folley. Ali even called Folley's family afterward to let them know that Zora was okay, he also told them of his admiration of Folley. When Folley passed away in 1972, My Mom, who was an LPN Nurse took care of Zora after that horrific head injury that he suffered by slipping in the swimming pool at the local hotel, she said that the Folley's were a very nice family.