Ray Leonards chin

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  1. Joeywill

    Joeywill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How would you guys rate it
     
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    Whatever it is, two points of ten is his ego reinforcing it.
     
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    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Which still makes the number valid, regardless, don't get me wrong.
     
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    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    The man fought a lot of great fighters and his only stoppage loss was his comeback bout against Macho Camacho after a 6-year layoff. So, obviously, he had a pretty good chin. Of course he was a smart, quick fighter who didn't get tagged a whole lot but when he did eat a punch he handled it well. I rate it a 9 of 10.
     
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  5. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well,at welterweight he walked Hearns down.
    You can’t exactly do that without a rock solid chin.
     
  6. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    Yep, in his welterweight prime it was a 9 out of 10. He was only visibly hurt once, against Duran in round 2 of their first fight. He took flush shots from Tommy Hearns. Great chin, great heart.
     
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    Great chin.
     
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    AntonioMartin1 Jeanette Full Member

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    He fell down quite a bit (7 times) after his Welterweight days, but he still took punches from the likes of Duran 3 times, Hearns twice, Norris and Hagler plus Benitez who while not one of the best punchers ever (far from that) did have decent power too.

    So I'd rate it 8 and a half out of ten?
     
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    Totally agree, it's good enough to rate 9 for sure. Never ever cost him a fight at 147 and he fought some good ones. I'd add great survival instincts and anticipation as well......anticipation can help notably i think in taking punches.
     
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    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    I agree it was 9 out of 10 at welter but he never took full flush shots from Hearns in the first fight ... like a prime Jones Jr. he was too good to hit flush ... even in their rematch when he was dropped twice they were somewhere between grazing and semi flush but never what hit Duran or Cuevas , not even close ..
     
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    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT banned Full Member

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    Great chin. Unlike Jones Jr, we saw definite proof of Ray’s prime chin before he began to decline. 9/10 sounds good.
     
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  12. Fergy

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    I think it was a solid enough chin.
    It's not as if he kept on having to jump up in fights.
    Obviously as he aged his reflexes went slightly and he was getting caught more often.
    But as a young guy I'd say an 8.
     
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    I am not a fan but he had a great chin.
     
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    quintonjacksonfan Active Member Full Member

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    The only time I can remember him getting stunned before his first retirement was in the second round of his first fight with Duran
     
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  15. Joeywill

    Joeywill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Im wondering because he seemed to never get dropped until the 2nd part of his career but then got dropped alot. Interestingly not in the Hagler fight.
     
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