Joseph Obey Joyce vs. Zhāng Zhìlěi & Denzel Bentley vs. Kieran Smith RBR.

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  1. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    that would be bad for his team he was outfought all fight and it took a ref to save him from going down in the second. they will stay far away from Zhang.
     
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  2. Noel857

    Noel857 I Am Duran

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    I am just stating that Zhang deservedly won and you saying it would be different if he wasn`t cut and Joyce would have taken over in the later rounds is irrelevant.He lost fair and square
     
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  3. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    You know how commentators are, David.

    There's bad commentators and there's....

























    ...worse commentators.
     
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  4. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    Whatever man.
     
  5. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    If Zhang were to land a clean left, it would probably persuade Usyk to avoid that punch from then on.
     
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  6. edabomb

    edabomb Active Member Full Member

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    Hopefully he can get his rematch in and have an opportunity to get back to mandatory before the belts splinter. If he loses twice to Zhang then there won't be anything to complain about.

    I'm think the AJ Ruiz 2 on his bike for the first 6 rounds approach is the way to go. The problem is a tiger can't change their stripes at 37, I don’t think Joyce has ever had to fight that way before.
     
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  7. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh!

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    Objectivity, caution and remaining poised wins those kind of things. Being reckless and emotional doesn't. We'll see. But rebuilding at 38 isn't easy. Doesn't look very good for him with a loss like this at his ripe age. Even if he's able to get one back on Zhang he'll probably be in his early 40s if/when he gets at the belts.
     
  8. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    yeah the left could not miss. accumulation no lucky cut here
     
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  9. GGGunbeatable

    GGGunbeatable Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's more likely that it has increased his chance for a title shot.
     
  10. DramaShow

    DramaShow 19 banned Full Member

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    If Zhang was 5 years younger and didn’t gas in his previous fights I think a lot of people would have picked him.

    I did think Zhang would hurt Joyce whose chin was vastly overrated after facing Parker and Dubois who didn’t land anything notable. Joyce didn’t really set the pace though to cause Zhang to tire.

    Joyce was lucky that Howard Foster stepped in during round 2 or he could have been stopped then.
     
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  11. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    Are you going to deny that that was certainly a possibility? Like I said, I never said Joyce was robbed, merely Zhang ****ed his eye up early, and benefited from it. That in no way means anything in the grand scheme of things. Most thought Joyce would lose the early rounds, some even thought he'd be dropped and then come roaring back, but due to this particular circumstance, that outcome wasn't possible. This is boxing, crazy **** happens all of the time, hell.... by all rights Fury should've lost to Otto Wallin by TKO, his eye damage was horrendous, but that ref let him fight with it for 10 rounds. If Foster hadn't of stopped the match, who knows what would've happened. Maybe Joyce would've been KTFO, maybe he'd have TKO'd a badly gassing Zhang, who by the 7th was reduced to throwing like three punches per round.
     
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  12. Johnny1987

    Johnny1987 Active Member Full Member

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    Told you all a long time ago that Joyce was being overrated on this forum.

    Zero defence
     
  13. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Joyce showed he could not jab with Zhang throughout the fight he was slower.
     
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  14. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh!

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    The swelling was caused from Zhangs left which was landing frequently, and it's not as if Joyce was winning the fight. Definitely not a fluke scenario.
     
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  15. Noel857

    Noel857 I Am Duran

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    As i said all of that is irrelevant