Joseph Obey Joyce vs. Zhāng Zhìlěi & Denzel Bentley vs. Kieran Smith RBR.

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  1. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    Yes, his timing's really good, as is his ability to close distance fast. Very decent handspeed for a giant as well, and his accuracy and shot selection are excellent. His only weakness here is a really sharp, penetrating jab. He has to rely on parrying, pawing, probing then exploding with shots when he senses an opening. That sneaky left straight though, what a nasty shot.
     
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  2. Arch Stanton

    Arch Stanton When you have to shoot, shoot!, don't talk...... Full Member

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    Yes to eye damage. And the potential for more serious eye damage, it's a fight FFS. You're staying the obvious, mate.

    Joyce's chin took Zhangs best shots up until the stoppage.


    He didn't hit the deck, he was still in the fight chin- wise. And still coming forward. And he would of continued coming forward.


    If, (and I know 'if' is a overly used term in boxing) Joyce NOT had eye damage then the fight for him was far from over, imo.

    But no way was Joyce's chin or heart, or engine, was cracked at the time of the stoppage....

    The damaged eye was the issue....but as I've already stated in earlier posts, it's the fight game. No excuses from me for his loss, just my reasoning. There's a difference.
     
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  3. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Yes fingers crossed he will. The matchmaking in the UFC is absolutely brutal but the good thing about that is losses aren't anywhere near as damaging to a fighter's career as they are in this sport.

    He should've done that. Maybe he should come in heavier next time instead of very light by his standards of late and sit down on his shots because he not only came in light he abandoned his slickness too :facepalm:
     
  4. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    No that would be an outrageous score to have
     
  5. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    He carried himself with pride I think he will be back

    he got rocked a few times but hung tough and never stopped trying
     
  6. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion

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    Impressive performance by Zhang I thought Joyce would stand up to his power and beat him.
     
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  7. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    Yeah, that's great. But you're also trying to argue with someone who never denied the results. Nor did I ever say Zhang was the rightful winner. Merely stating facts. You're just over the moon, because you said Joyce was a hypejob, and disagreed with me, when I said he was a top tier talent, and now you're attempting to slyly passively aggressively and yes pettily rub it in. Good for you, you got one right, I got one wrong. Ultimately this means **** all, because Joyce will come roaring back and prove you wrong several more times.
     
  8. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    This.

    And can anyone say WHY the ref felt the need to stop matters there?

    I would have been somewhat excusable if he had delivered an eight-count, but he didn't even do that.

    I think in hindsight, round two could have been scored 10 - 8.
     
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  9. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    thats why i told you that would be the shot that would put joe down. the dr robbed me of the w.
     
  10. BoyBato

    BoyBato Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Damn it. Missed this one.
     
  11. GGGunbeatable

    GGGunbeatable Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I deleted the first part, it was still saved. I actually wanted to say: If it was a headbutt I would understand if people got upset over the stoppage.

    But Zhang was landing clear shots for the entire fight, there are no excuses.
     
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  12. David B

    David B Nazi Russia lies. This is the only truth. Full Member

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    Joyce has taken so much unnecessary damage in his career. In the Takam fight he ate about 30 overhand rights, and while people talk about his chin every one of them punches is rattling his brain. I guarantee he will have either MND CTE or parkinsons/dementia in his later life. This guy has taken more heavy shots in his short professional career than most HW's combined,
     
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  13. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    Yeah, I'm well aware, it's not great to play in sports leagues, when you bore easily and like taking risks. As far as Joyce goes, he was just stopped by a 40 year old with a terrible engine, coming off of a loss. He'll be okay.
     
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  14. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh!

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    I knew what you were going for. Agreed. Zhang was clearly the better man on the night.
     
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  15. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    no it means he was seriously hurt and the ref dove in and broke them up and gave Joyce time to recover... as far as what would of happened who knows but Joyce was in serious trouble the ref knew it and served some hometown protection.
     
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