Boxing decisions by Artifical Intelligence

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  1. CleneloAnavarez

    CleneloAnavarez Well-Known Member Full Member

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    A new software startup named Jabbr.ai has created an application called Deep Strike which uses deep learning to count punches and recognise their impact, aldo quantifies attributes like aggression and pressure.

    I have seen analysis of several well known fights and have been impressed by the technical breakdown. You can check it for yourself on Instagram.

    https://www.instagram.com/jabbr.ai/
     
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  2. 007 373 5963

    007 373 5963 Active Member Full Member

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    I can already see the wiseguys bribing the AI with more RAM.
     
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  3. heerko koois

    heerko koois Obsessed with Boxing

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    dos 4.2 would be smart enough to pick GGG in the first 2 fights.....
     
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  4. AngryBirds

    AngryBirds Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    They would also probably threaten to take RAM away from the AI if didn’t give their guy the win.
     
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  5. Sandman_

    Sandman_ Undisputed Full Member

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    AI DKSAB.
     
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  6. Dangerwood84

    Dangerwood84 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So we'd still get the same decisions!
     
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  7. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    Imagine asking AI what they think the term "floored" means. It would implode.
     
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  8. FrankinDallas

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    An Atari 2600 console would have scored both fights for GGG.
     
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  9. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    A Babbage Difference Engine would have scored both fights for GGG.
     
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  10. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It’s called GIGO.

    Garbage In, Garbage Out.

    You program something wrong and it gives you wrong results.

    Boxing in every jurisdiction is judged on four points. Per your post, not one of those four points is part of the programming.

    The four points are:

    1) Clean and effective/impactful punches landed.

    2) EFFECTIVE aggression. Coming forward means nothing. Coming forward effectively (i.e. cutting off the ring, closing the distance, etc.) is what this means.

    3) Ring generalship. Who is dictating the terms of the fight. If you’re following Ali around as he floats like a butterfly and stings you like a bee, he’s the ring general. If you’re Joe Frazier bullying him to the ropes and banging away at his head and ribs, you’re the ring general.

    4) Defense. Making the other man miss, taking the sting off punches so they don’t land cleanly or effectively so only glance, parrying or blocking, slipping and ducking under them.

    It’s a worthless exercise if they don’t even know how fights are scored. But then again, a lot of people on this forum have no idea how fights are scored.
     
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    How will Canelo continue to be marketable?
     
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  12. 007 373 5963

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    An abacus would have scored both fights for GGG
     
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  13. CleneloAnavarez

    CleneloAnavarez Well-Known Member Full Member

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    We are not talking about deterministic algos. Deep learning methods are trained with huge datasets, they evolve with use.
    They know how to calculate ring generalship, aggression and effective punching. Collected stats show it round by round.

    Deep Strike has done a better job scoring Loma Lopez, Canelo-Golovkin and Kovalev-Ward than the judges.
     
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  14. UmarIFLUmar

    UmarIFLUmar Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The AI results are in and the winner by unanimous decision is.... CAMPBELL HATTOOOOOOON
     
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  15. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You’re OP says ‘quantifies attributes like aggression and pressure,’ which are not part of scoring fights.

    You get results that you like better than the actual scoring so you say it’s better. Which doesn’t mean it’s better.

    GIGO.
     
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