George Foreman from the 90s vs. Zhang Zhilei.

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  1. mr. magoo

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    Who also happened to be heavyweight champion of the world. Had survived bombs from Bert Cooper, Alex Stewart and James smith. Was 28 years old undefeated and in his prime. Zhang couldn’t finish off Forrest despite having him in trouble
     
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    You can’t dress up a turd. Moorer went life and death with Stewart, an undersized heavy, and Cooper, a blown up cruiser. These are examples of why Foreman was eager to fight Moorer.
     
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    Ummm what ??? Moorer destroyed Stewart. Hardly a life and death affair. You need to watch fights. And Bert Cooper had been battling against heavies for a long time and had a notoriously hard punch. But I guess none of these guys stacked up to the great Craig Lewis
     
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    I didn't say Zhang would stop Foreman early. I said that he might mess Foreman up early. Chances are that Zhang would be strong early and fade down the stretch. If Foreman is a mess he may not be able to impose himself late, which I think he would need to do. If Foreman is OK and Zhang gasses then Zhang is probably in a large amount of trouble.
     
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    You’re confusing Alex and Leslie.

    You didn’t watch the fight.

    https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-ne...lugfest-michael-moorer-vs-alex-stewart/238202
     
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    He was almost tko’d on the ropes. Granted, he did better than Foreman against Stewart.
     
  8. Man_Machine

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    No. It really wasn't. Moorer flattened Stewart in fairly short order and, given that Stewart was considered to be Moorer's first real test at Heavyweight, the performance and result was seen as him announcing serious intent in the division.
     
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    George could probably win this. I do however think Joyce would beat old Foreman.
     
  10. mr. magoo

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    Agreed. I saw that fight live. Leslie Stuart actually gave Moorer a better fight when he was at 175 than Alex Stewart did
     
  11. Glass City Cobra

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    6'3 and 230 lbs was not "undersized" in the 90's.
     
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    He was about 215 + or - for Tyson and Holyfield, and got fatter.

    Nowhere near Zhang's size but it stop him from dicing up Foreman and hurting Moorer, despite having crappy punch resistance.
     
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    Foreman was better early, but starting from Cooney was not near the very beginning; he like anyone who was out of the game a decae, 38 + had gotten quite fat needed time to Tune Up.
     
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    He was 230 when he fought Moorer which isn't undersized. You were wrong admit or don't admit, don't give a **** either way.
     
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    He was fatter than his peak weight.