Davis-Garcia: What a let down

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  1. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wasn’t even best fight of the day. But I get your drift.
     
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  2. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    He showed just how inexperienced he was at this level. He simply didn't have an answer for the counters and in the past when dropped he's just doubled downed and thrown harder and faster but that's just falling even further into the trap of a counter puncher and he'd never faced anyone like Tank and had no plan B.

    He quit, but it might have been just as much out of frustration of being unable to come up with an answer to turn the fight around as to avoiding what would have been a long slow beat down.
     
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  3. Cobra33

    Cobra33 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Great post. He has 0 boxing IQ. His only tactic is to throw fast combinations and thats it as you pointed out. You could see Tank setting up his attacks and Ryan just reacting by just trying to throw fast punches.
    He is not and will not ever be a top level boxer. Hell ROLLY gave Tank a much better fight.
     
  4. drenlou

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    Let me ask you something brighton, we had a little interaction the other night about rehydration and all that stuff, you argued it could be a factor, i argued the opposite way. What do you think at this point and time, did rehydration have anything to do with why Ryan lost tonite?
     
  5. kirk

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    I like both guys, was slightly rooting for Garcia. I thought round 2 was awesome, kinda thought there would be more of that (that's exactly how I thought the fight would end but in the 8th or so)

    But I admit I was a little dissapointed.

    After he got dropped I think Garcia froze a little bit. And Im all for chess matches but it did get pretty stale as both started waiting on the other.

    Finally Tank starts to become the aggressor.

    And as soon as Ryan seemed like he was starting to shake the fear from the knock down, he quits.

    Idk.

    Wasn't a bad fight at all but was just a tad bit disappointing to me.

    But that's aight... I did enjoy it.
     
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  6. senpai

    senpai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Glorified sparring session
     
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  7. OldSchoolBoxing

    OldSchoolBoxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So, someone bet huge on Davis wins by KO in round 7, and Garcia & Davis followed the script. I told you, this fight was not real.
     
  8. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    No it had nothing to do with the loss at all, I said I'd favour Tank even if there was no rehydration clause. Skills and ring IQ trump size, it's just a shame Tank had to resort to pressing every advantage he could he really didn't need to he was always the far better fighter.

    So I didn't argue it would be a factor just that it would take some shine off the win, because there will be some that will want to blame it on the rehydration clause.
     
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  9. drenlou

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    I'm just saying because you brought up Jones moving down from heavyweight and DLH-Pac as an example of fighters losing weight and being affected by it. I've always maintained what I thought, and that was tank was simply the better fighter and that playing on an even playing field was more than fair.
     
  10. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    True because Tank imposed the rehydration clause for a reason, believing it would make a difference. Which is why it's a cynical move, wise, but cynical and it's a shame he didn't have more faith in his ability. Even though it had no effect on the outcome it does leave Tank open for criticism, no doubt years from know people will bring this rehydration clause up to discredit this win, it won't be valid but when has that ever stopped the critics.


    EDIT: OK didn't take years, took minutes, lol.

    https://www.boxingforum24.com/threa...n-at-140-without-a-rehydration-clause.702635/
     
  11. drenlou

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    Plenty of fighters made fighters move down, Donny Lalonde said ok well fight Leonard at
    Lol. Look at Donny Lalonde vs Leonard. Lalonde wad the 175 pound champion fighting Leonard for the inaugural WBC 168 pound title at 168 no less. This type of thing with catch weights and ECT has been going on for years. Mayweather did the same **** with Corrales but those fights are still talked about and all fighters involved still are given full credit to this day. Posters on here now days are so picky, and nitpick why a certain fighter should win or have advantages or ect. I think more big fights should be played on an even playing field. Imo. Sorry if I went off subject, im feeling great today.
     
  12. Manfred

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    That has to be the dumbest statement rendered tonight.
     
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  13. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Just because other fighters have done it in the past doesn't make it acceptable, and the rehydration clause is more of a new aspect to stacking to deck to the draws advantage. Leonard got criticised for it, so did Mayweather and Pac, so don't see why Tank should be any different for making a fighter not only drop down in weight but impose a rehydration clause, especially against a fighter he could beat without it.
     
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  14. drenlou

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    Its acceptable because that's what boxing is now. Its a business as much as it is a sport, and its evolved that way for the past 16 years or so. A side fighters who put in work should have the advantage to call shots, its that simple. Lopez get labeled a weight bully for beating loma, Haney gets labeled a weight bully for beating Kambosos and round and round we go. The point is if you're the a side make requests, if you're the smaller guy despite being in the same weight class for years make those requests. That's what a side fighters do, they dictate the terms, and if a fighter agrees to it, then there should be no issue.
     
  15. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    It maybe the nature of the sport, I get that, hence why I said it was a cynical but wise move. But it's not something I can really respect and I feel a lot of other people feel the same way too.

    We watch boxing to find out who is the best not who's the better pre fight negotiator.