Davis-Garcia: What a let down

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  1. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    In reality it is who is the best on an even playing field that we should be watching. Is it really fair to fight a fighter who is naturally 2-3 weight classes bigger than you? You stated you were 5'5 or something like that, would you really want to fight a guy 6'5? You should get my point.
     
  2. Brighton bomber

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    I don't think me at 5'5" and walking around at 128-129lbs and fighting someone the size of Hrgovic or Zhang is really a fair comparison to Garcia and Tank, lol. Me vs Hrgovic would be more like 11 divisions not 2-3. But if I can make Hrgovic drop down to say Bantam weight or lets be generous super bantam weight then yeah I'd fight him, he'd literally be a corpse, they'd have to carry him into the ring.

    It was only a couple of years ago that Garcia himself fought at light weight so I don't think the weight difference was as big as you suggest.

    It's one thing if Tank had met Garcia halfway like doing what Pac did or Oscar did, move up to the higher weight then make Garcia come in at say 137lbs but that's not what he did, he made him come all the way down to 135 and then imposed a rehydration clause on top of that. He had the leverage to do it but like I said it was cynical and it leaves him open to be criticised and the win to be discredited by some.
     
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  3. drenlou

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    Its a street comparison where size doesn't matter. If you have to fight you fight, or get beat up or worst. Lol. That's the point , 2 or 3 weight classes in the streets don't exist.. Lol that's why I'm telling you that prize fighting in the ring against a guy 2-3 10 weight classes bigger than you isn't fair. Its reality, and in boxing where guys are fighting and taking damage for a living while many are sitting at home on fat asses being entertained shouldn't complain so much.
     
  4. Brighton bomber

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    Why are you bringing street fighting into this lol, this is a boxing forum?

    Also if it's not fair then don't make the fight. RJJ moved up to heavyweight and fought Ruiz, Pac fought plenty of bigger guys at their own weight like Hatton, Mosley etc. Duran too had no issue moving up beating bigger guys at their own weight and not needing to stack the deck.

    If Tank was moving up in weight to face a bigger man or if he was facing a guy at least 2 divisions bigger then it might not be as bad but he was facing a guy in the next division up.

    Fighters jump 1 division all the fricken time without the need to impose all these stipulations, you think Inoue is getting Fulton to adhere to a rehydration clause or force him to drop weight even though he is the draw and A-side and could easily do so? No Inoue's a bad ass and will move up and beat the bigger man without the need to enforce advantages.
     
  5. Murderers' Row

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    Garcia is just another pretty face. Tank was always going to win.
     
  6. drenlou

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    Boxing comes from throwing your hands, the same way as street fighting which has a longer history than boxing itself.. Only difference is one is skilled and considered a deadly weapon by law enforcement, and the other is technically just reputable on a street level. But obviously you dont get the point about weight classes and being bigger ect. So ill leave it here. I don't feel the need to respond to long messages that I don't agree with.

    "don't make the fight" but over the last couple of days you're arguing over rehydration clauses and how it can affect a certain fighter and not giving full credit. Cool
     
  7. Azania

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    Garcia tanked it..for all the talk before the fight once ha tasted Tank's power he was looking for a way out.

    That body punch was hard..but hr could have gotten up..he had the legs to atay away from Tank until he got his breath back..he showed no botle when he needed to..he aint no DLH clone after all.
     
  8. drenlou

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    And if Inoue loses guess what! Fulton only gets partial credit. That's what posters on here say, and I'm sure if it happens that way people will say the same thing. "Weight bullying" will always be a term for losers.
     
  9. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Again I said it wasn't the case with this fight, why do you seem to be ignoring that. You seem to think I am discrediting Tanks win, I am not, that's not what I am saying. I'm saying him forcing these requirements will make other people doubt the win, tarnish it, when you know and I know it made no difference. Fact is we can't control what other people think and some people will use all the stipulations as a way to discredit the win, we know this because it's happened before and happening now with this fight.
     
  10. drenlou

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    You said it the other day, why are you ignoring that?
     
  11. drenlou

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    So what does this mean? This is part of your quote.

     
  12. Brighton bomber

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    I agree weight bullying is nonsense, if you can make the weight you can make the weight, it's just used to discredit fighters. I don't like it either. But that's just the reality of the sport we watch people will be critical of fighters who drain a lot of weight, ignoring how that impairs a fighter as well as giving them advantages.

    Again let me be clear me saying people will discredit the win due to Tank's leveraging advantages isn't the same as me doing so, I give Tank full credit for the win as I said the rehydration clause isn't an issue but that's just my opinion, one opinion of many as we may disagree but others will use this to discredit the win or tarnish it to some degree, which is what I was saying when I said he won't get full credit and in reality doesn't deserve full credit because hypothetical's are just that, hypothetical, not the same as actually doing it. If he wants full credit the the recognition then do it don't stack the deck people won't respect that even if it has no effect on the result.
     
  13. Brighton bomber

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    Then either I wasn't clear on my stance or you misunderstood the nuance of what I was saying, read the last paragraph of the post above, that might give you a clear understanding of my stance.
     
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  14. UmarIFLUmar

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    I dont know why so many people on here thought Garcia was going to win lol.

    The guy went life and death with Luke Campbell. And don't get me wrong Campbell was decent enough but ultimately a gatekeeper.
     
  15. drenlou

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    I have nothing against you, I think you're a good poster and I read alot of what you say, although I may not agree with all of it like in this instance, but I read your content. This is a subject you're going to have to bite to, and its clear to see.