George Foreman (First Career) Vs Oleksandr Usyk?

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  1. Noel857

    Noel857 I Am Duran Full Member

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    I never said Usyk didn`t beat Gassiev ,are you trippin?
     
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  2. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Stop what? Usyks cruiserweight opponents are objectively bigger than many past heavyweight champions and top contenders. And we have plenty of cases of guys rehydrating 20 pounds in other weight divisions so a guy who fights at 220 could dry out and make cruiserweight
     
  3. BCS8

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    What does probably mean?


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    Probably is the adverb form of the adjective probable, meaning “very likely to occur or be true.” Probably is used when you think something will happen or turn out to be true, but
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  4. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Based on what? Norton got destroyed by every puncher he faced. Gassiev sees like a terrible matchup for hin.

    Moorer is also is suspect against punchers given he avoided all but one who knocked him out in the first round.
     
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  5. Noel857

    Noel857 I Am Duran Full Member

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    Listen i haven`t got a clue what your going on about.So i will bow out take care
     
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  6. Greg Price99

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    Noel was saying he thinks Norton, Lyle, Moorer and Cooney would probably beat Usyk.

    You appear to have read his message as saying Usyk probably beats Gassiev.
     
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  7. JohnThomas1

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    What were Cooper and Smith, turnips?

    He also fought a guy named Foreman, who the odd guy that knows even a little about boxing might well call a "puncher".
     
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  8. Cojimar 1946

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    Cooper was a journeyman who never was able to translate his power into success against world class opponents even ones with suspect durability like Williams and to make matters worse was past his best and out of shape. Smith was totally shot when he fought Moorer.

    Yes I think you can reasonably argue Gassiev is a deadlier puncher than Cooper or that version of Smith. He was the only guy to ever stop Dorticos and Wlocardczyk when those guys were close to their primes.
     
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  9. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Foreman was a natural 230 pounder. If you knew **** about boxing, you'd know his camp dehydrated him severely with multi-day dry fasts which made him come in several pounds lighter than his natural weight and he was still nowhere near cruiser.
     
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  10. JohnThomas1

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    None of this does anything whatsoever for your completely false claims.
     
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  11. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Moorer didn't face Lewis, Ruddock, Tyson, Bowe or Corrie Sanders. If Moorer had successfully taken shots from these guys and lasted the distance I would be far more sold on his durability and him beating Gassiev. That's my only point.
     
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  12. JohnThomas1

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    You made a blanket statement and it wasn't just. No-one is running around saying his chin is iron or trying to sell his durability one would hope.
     
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  13. BCS8

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    His message is in that case ambiguous. I guess I should have realised what I was dealing with when I was trying to work out who TF Clooney was.
     
  14. Greg Price99

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    "I understand that Norton, Lyle, Moorer and Cooney would beat Gassiev and probably Usyk too".

    It's pretty clear what he meant to me and I suspect everyone else. You misread it.
     
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  15. BCS8

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    Fixed it
     
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