George Foreman (First Career) Vs Oleksandr Usyk?

Not reading properly are you?

I guess you also believe Tyson Fury is actually 6’9”. Wow.

You said Gassiev is the same height as Foreman

He isn’t. Period. Prime Foreman was at least 1” and quite possibly 1 1/2” + taller.

Foreman’s height recorded weight in his first career was 231 1/2 lbs.

If you read Manny Pac listed as 6’2” - you’d buy it, right?

Foreman himself was listed variously as 6’5”, 6’4”, 6’ 3 1/2” and 6’3” in his first career.

Perhaps I should disingenuously opt for the highest listing.

So you went with 6’3” for Gassiev but now you’ve found an even more improbable 6’4” - are you running with that now?

Let’s inflate the CWs and shrink the naturally big HW that Foreman was. Lol.

Use your actual eyes.

Also, try to stick to and remember your line of argument - you say Gassiev was cutting - cutting from what? Not a bulked up 238 1/2 lbs - the weight you chose to cite.

Not so cute how you’re clearly trying to hedge the numbers to suit your argument.

 

Exactly, and its why I can kinda understand Classic going "wait, what" when considering that the AJ version of Usyk may have been slightly bigger than many versions of Foreman. Adamek is regarded as undersized at heavy.

 

I quoted wikipedia.

Here it says Foreman is 6'3
https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/90

I see his weight at below 220 for much of his first career.

So what you're saying is that you actually don't know what his dimensions were.

What I'm saying is that claiming that the men Usyk faced are small and that Foreman is a novelty in any way is completely incorrect. What I'm saying is that they were about the same size as Foreman and when allowed no weight limit, they became even bigger. The argument that Usyk is unproven at heavyweight is laughable when most of the guys he was facing were as big or bigger than many of the guys Foreman faced.

I used my eyes and determined that Usyk is about the same size as Foreman.

I never claimed he was cutting from 238 however the fact that he was cutting means that he was over 200lb come fight night. The 195lb guy Foreman beat wasn't heavier than 195 because he didnt need to cut weight in the first place.

I feel that am am well in control of this argument

 

So you’re shrinking George to just 6’2” now?

Ali held a passport very early in his career that listed him as 6’2 1/2” at an age when he could’ve easily grown close to another 1/2” thereafter.

That height was merely replicated on future passports though one did list him as 6’3”. There is no better face for comparison than the one we can see in Zaire between Foreman and Ali - and Foreman appears a good 1” taller.

 

So you are saying Ali was 6'1?

 

The only other 3 posters to comment all understood what he meant.

4 idiots on the same wavelength or 1 poster too stubborn to admit they misinterpreted something that was obvious to everyone else? Hmm...

 

Don't call them idiots.

 

You're making a habit out of misinterpreting posts in this thread sunshine.

I'll explain this one for you too, given Pugguy and I are on the same "wavelength".

He's saying Ali was likely somewhere between 6ft 2.5ins and 6ft 3ins, whilst Foreman looked around 1 inch taller.

 

Nope, now I'm just annoying the old people.

You guys have fun, Imma have work to do

Don't forget to charge the mobility scooter's battery!

 

The fact that you had to say you’re well in control of the argument clearly suggests that you are not.

I know what and from where you’re quoting.

Know I didn’t say I didn’t know what Foreman’s dimensions were. Is that another one of your misreads or you’re just making it up as you go along?

I said at least a solid 6’3 to 6’ 3 1/2”. No change on that - not like jumping Gassiev from an incorrect 6’3” to 6’4” in your very next post.

You cited 238 lbs. I then asked what weight do you think in he WAS cutting down from (“cutting from what?) to fly under the CW limit? You didn’t answer.

We should all be in such control of our arguments - and falsely advertise it to be the case also.

 

Don't conflate annoying people with embarrassing yourself, young man.

 

Lol, you do realise you’re chasing your own tail with that comment? C’mon, you can do better than that - or can you?

 

Well in control of this argument?

I’m a long way from the possible need for a mobility scooter - but if and when I do need to get one, I want to rock it like this dude: - nothing to be ashamed of nor the “I’ve got nothing” , walk out insult you intended it to be: -

https://youtube.com/shorts/mtamSmMRGCw?feature=share

 

I don't doubt that young George can hurt him, as he could probably hurt any bloke born to a mother to devastating effect, but...can he catch him? I think Usyk's speed and boxing brain make a gingerbread man of him here.

 

If a well past-it Chisora can land, then a prime Foreman can land. Not even Ali was pitching a complete shutout of Foreman before the stoppage came.

So, yes, I would say with confidence that Foreman can catch Usyk.

The better questions might be, can Usyk take those connects and, if so, for how long?