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Who wins?

  1. Draw due to unforeseen anomalies in the scoring math

    0 vote(s)
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  2. Muhammad Alizier

    69.2%
  3. Larry Holmezier

    15.4%
  4. Both men's chiropractors

    15.4%
  5. Double DQ

    7.7%
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  1. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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  2. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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  3. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    I'm going to need your opinion on the winner first CT, even if it's a one word answer :lol:
     
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  4. ThatOne

    ThatOne Boxing Addict Full Member

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  5. Rubber Glove Sandwich

    Rubber Glove Sandwich 'Iranian flag green' reflecting pool Full Member

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    I think it is fair to say that the fight will be won by the unfrazierly behavior rule. One of them will eventually have to turn to their old habits. Who will break first? I am not sure.
     
  6. Richard M Murrieta

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    Welcome back cross trainer.
     
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  7. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    Peak Muhammad Ali of 1967, we never got to see Ali's prime, he was stripped of his title and boxing license in April 1967. In 1974 Ali was hardly in his prime, the year before he had his jaw broken by Ken Norton, the peak Ali was hardly ever touched as champion from 1964-1967.
     
  8. mr. magoo

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    I think by about the fifth round both of their backs would be killing them
     
  9. Pugguy

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    Ali is the more versatile and adaptable - he would be a better Frazier than Larry could ever dream of being.

    Larry did try to be Ali and failed in that regard after all. Ali was a very good Cassius Clay also.

    I don’t think Larry’s Frazier could carry Ali’s Frazier’s jockstrap.

    Ali’s Frazier FTW.
     
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  10. JohnThomas1

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    Agreed. Besides being a half level better, Ali's hook, which was hardly a showcase was still better than Holmes which was almost non existent.
     
  11. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT banned Full Member

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    Sorry, tried to vote but it appears there is no poll feature to accomodate my selection. No offence CT, but it seems you’re a bit rusty.
     
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  12. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Ali was only a half level better than Holmes in your opinion? I think he had a good level or two.
     
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  13. Pugguy

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    True, usage wasn’t high but a very nice hook when Ali did elect to launch it.
     
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  14. JohnThomas1

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    A very fair summation.
     
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  15. Richard M Murrieta

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    So both have to wear green trunks like in FOTC in March 1971, get the same haircut as Smoking Joe? Ha Ha.
     
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