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both at their best would be a competitive fight, ali was a bit heavier and barely taller but not such difference in size. I would say Ali should be favorite because how fast he moved but Joe was very precise. Joe with chappie in his corner would be a very difficult fight for Ali, but with a gun pointing at me I would say ali

 

Not as tough as you think. In your post God exists. Before I make my perdition, I would ask for forgiveness and except God. So, if I predict right, cool, if I'm wrong I live in glory for eternity.

 

It does not. If the gods were putting a fight together it would be Monson vs. Hagler, not Ali vs. Lewis.

 

Hi Buddy.
I also believe the Ali (since you state how fast ) of the 60s, would have beaten Louis, prob by a UD points, just a minor issue, the Ali of the Williams fight tipped the scales at 212lbs, where by the Louis of the Schmeling fight weighed in at 193lbs, so at their respective best, there was quite a big difference in weight.
stay safe hombre, chat soon.

 

Are they cruel or just have a good sense of humor?

 

I guess it depends on what side of the joke one is standing.

 

I’ve thought long and hard enough. Louis wins. I await the outcome to determine my fate. I feel pretty safe on this one actually.

 

Does a busty women with perfect curves wearing a peasent blouse with saphire red and emerald rubys with knee high boots while hovering her soft hands over a crystal ball considered meddling?

 

Since the boxing gods should be responsible for the outcome... I would probably try to consult the oracle of Delphi... or sacrifice some lambs... or would try to learn the old art and science of reading tea leaves...

BTW., greetings to cross_trainer

 

With all due respect to the great Joe Louis, I believe that a peak Muhammad Ali of 1964-1967 defeats Louis by a unanimous 15 round decision. First off, Ali was not a Billy Conn to make that fatal mistake of trying to slug it out with Louis at any time. Ali could Float Like A Butterfly and Sting Like A Bee for 15 rounds if need be. We are not talking about an Ali who was floored by Sonny Banks in Feb 1962 and Henry Cooper in June 1963, but a mature Ali that had stamina, speed, reflexes, timing and footwork on his side. Joe Louis was a strong flat footed fighter, who would constantly get tagged by a swift Ali right hand while remaining out of Joe's range. Ali would not stop Louis as Ali even at his 1960's peak was not a heavy fisted puncher. Also worth mentioning, peak Ali had a chip om his shoulder as other older boxing fans did not hold him in high esteem as they would a Joe Louis, Jersey Joe Walcott, or perhaps an undefeated Rocky Marciano.

 

I would consult Old Mrs Braithwaite who was my parents’ neighbour back in the 1980s/1990s. She was a psychic apparently and I have a bit of evidence of her gifts, having won a good amount of money by successfully tipping a few of her predictions.
Hmm…but I’m not sure she can predict the results of fantasy fights from past boxers as well as she can predict future fights with living boxers, so I may have a bit of a problem there.

Oh no, I’ve just heard from my mother that Old Mrs Braithwaite passed away 13 years ago so it’s all academic now anyway.

So I’m on my own then. I’ll guess that Ali wins a majority decision with his movement being the key.
I just pray Joe doesn’t catch him flush with one of those murderous shots of his or I…like Ali…will be doomed!

 

While I'd cheer for Louis, I would have to fancy Ali here. Historically Louis had problems with the slicker boxer types and Ali is precisely that. Louis liked to get set to throw his big thunder and Ali will not let him set his feet easily. Louis' jab could well be problematic but Ali's flashy, showy style would doubtless provide the highlights the judges would remember even if Louis scored repeatedly with his jab. Ali on points is pretty likely.

 

Both at their best?
I see Ali un 15
He might get tagged and rocked but Ali's hands up at the end.