Santos Saúl Álvarez Barragán vs. John Ryder & Gabriel Gollaz Valenzuela vs. Steve Spark RBR.

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  1. FrankinDallas

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    We'll never see Ryan Garcia look like that after a fight; he'd quit long before.

    Props to Ryder, Canelo on the downhill slope of his career. Bivol pulverizes him later this year.
     
  2. box33

    box33 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Just got to it now & was just what i expected, man felt bad for Ryder he's a real good guy & should be content with himself.
     
  3. Rollin

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    Ryder finished his triumphant march (Jacobs, Parker, Canelo) with an inspiring performance in the heart of Mexico, against an unified champion of his division no less.

    Having nose injury in the 2nd round while your gameplan is to get your opponent into laters rounds and exploit his worsening stamina.. well that's just bad luck. Lesser nose injuries can throw you off your game, blood running down your throat, difficulty breathing and all.
     
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  4. 007 373 5963

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    Another amateur production from DAZN is in the books, and it checked all the usual boxes:

    1. Dreadlocks Diamante and his embarrassing attempts at a dozen different catchphrases.
    2. Dreadlocks having to ask the ref what his name is in the middle of his announcing.
    3. Dreadlocks pausing in the middle of his announcing, having to look at his notes, and having to give direction to the bell ringer.
    4. Mispronouncing people's names from both dreadlocks and the ringside announcers.
    5. Very soft and monotone announcing from the ringside announcers.
    6. Ringside announcers' audio going out intermittently.
    7. The audio engineering is amateur hour. Everything is too quiet and mediocre clarity, and there's no depth to any of the sound.
    8. No acknowledgment by any of the commentators of the suspicious judges' scores on the Spark fight.

    The only positive i have to say is that they are getting a little better with the crane cam usage.

    I miss HBO boxing. Jim Lampley and Larry Merchant were consummate professionals at calling fights, and did not fear calling out garbage score cards.
     
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  5. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That ring was laughably small

    Ryder haters are stupid

    Clenelo is sliding

    That’s all I got
     
  6. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things.

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    I am going to bet big on Canelo vs Bivol going the distance. Easy money.
     
  7. splatter69

    splatter69 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Am I the only one that would like to see that fight again? It was crazy how he couldn’t breathe and still was out working Canelo late. That nose injury totally screwed him. Don’t get me wrong the injury was caused by a punch but that fight woulda been really interesting had the injury not happened. Guys got big balls and heart.
     
  8. DramaShow

    DramaShow 19 banned Full Member

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    Why was there no Michael Buffer again ? He wasn't present at the Joshua Franklin fight either.
     
  9. ArseBandit

    ArseBandit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Don't underestimate Ryder. That is a casual feeling based on his losses, the reality is he fairly clearly won many of his losses against top tier opposition.

    This is good win for Canelo and Ryder is a heck of a fighter.
     
  10. ArseBandit

    ArseBandit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A nose can be broken in a single punch. Means nothing.
     
  11. Serge

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    Juan Ryder had every possible thing that could've been stacked against him stacked against going into the fight as it was

    Fighting a legend like Canelo in his home city in front of 55,000 rabid Clenelo fans

    He was making a huge leap up in class

    Fighting on a stage of that magnitude for the first time

    Fighting at altitude

    In the sweltering heat (he's from my area and I can assure you it's cold and miserable over here most of the time)

    And in a shoe box sized ring which robbed him of his slickness and made it much more difficult for him to defend himself

    But when Clenelo broke both, not one but both, of his nostrils at the end of round 2 which were bleeding profusely for the rest of the fight (and from his mouth too), it obviously made an already near impossible task a way more difficult one for him.

    He displayed incredible heart, bravery and toughness to not only hang in there when he was under enormous mental and physical pressure (and haul himself back up off the canvas after getting dropped) and in great physical discomfort from his injuries where he had been unable to breath through his nose and was swallowing his own blood from round 2, but to actually bite down on his gum shield and take the fight to Clenelo and sweep the final three rounds on my card.

    I keep telling you guys British domestic level dust ups are the envy of the boxing world and the good people of Mexico would love tuning into watch the heart and courage our boys routinely display in them and that heart, indomitable warrior spirit and toughness was on full display last night again from Juan ''The Guadalajara Gorilla'' Ryder.
     
  12. Flo_Raiden

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    Expected an execution within 6 rounds but was surprised to see how tough and gutsy Ryder was. He did the best he could and managed to tag Canelo. Good effort from Ryder even if it was a bit one sided.
     
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  13. theanatolian

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    Hell of an effort and heart by Ryder, him starting to do his best work just when you thought he was done was reminiscent of Gatti.

    Canelo’s head movement is just not there anymore. That, and slowing down in the championship rounds is a very bad sign especially when David Benavidez is coming after you.

    He’s getting shutout by Bivol. Makes sense for him to want it at 175 as he may as well keep his SMW titles.
     
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  14. venbox

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    I've only seen Canelo taking as much punishment as last night in the first two Golovkin fights, Bivol didn't punish Canelo as much as Ryder, so kudos to the British, who also has a very strong chin, up there with the best, he took an absolute beating from a hard puncher without ever giving up.
     
  15. Serge

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    Brief HLs of the final round of Gvozdyk vs Botviniks here

    It looks to me like Gvozdyk's legs are no longer the same from that brief bit of footage. They look stiff and his he doesn't have that beautiful footwork anymore. Maybe that was not the case in the earlier rounds though but I can definitely see a difference in him there. Still looks good up top though.


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