Santos Saúl Álvarez Barragán vs. John Ryder & Gabriel Gollaz Valenzuela vs. Steve Spark RBR.

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  1. 007 373 5963

    007 373 5963 Active Member Full Member

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    Because DAZN is all in on Dreadlocks Diamante and his constant screw-ups, and embarrassing attempts at a dozen different catchphrases.
     
  2. Komaster

    Komaster Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Top bloke that guy, despite all the serial killing.
     
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  3. Rollin

    Rollin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Worse twelve round wars were waged without nose injury—not to mention the first two rounds were by no means some sort of beatdown.

    Earning over a million bucks plus PPV money, leaving your name in the books of boxing history, even if only as a gritty veteran challenger, and knowing that you didn't quit when going through hell?

    I reckon it can be considered a great success, especially for Ryder who some fights ago could only be considered old and starving as far as his sport career goes.
     
  4. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh!

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    Would love to see Clenelo fight Beterbiev. Wonder why he doesn't want to attempt that fight?
     
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  5. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    And yet you'd be on here mocking him as a quitter if he stayed down after the knockdown. What the ****? You're Mr. Ant-woke in the Lounge, but over here you sound like one of them. What's next? A full blown dismantling of macho pride and toxic masculinity?
     
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  6. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    Why are you surprised I said that? Sure, I can understand why people stay down and I don't hold it against them as much as many on here would. But I also greatly value prideful yet self destructive macho impulse of showing the heart of a warrior and walking through hellfire and brimstone, trying to win at any cost. Never for once did he stop thinking he could pull it off, and he was getting to him in the second half of the match more and moe as the rounds went by. It has nothing to do with you thinking or let's say prideful boasting that he's not on the same level as Canelo, get over it, step back and look at what most saw last it. It had everything to do with Ryder earning everyone's love and admiration, and willing to go toe to toe Mexican style in Mexico willing to lay it all on the line even though the odds ere clearly against him, valiantly willing to do out on his shield to get the victory. From now on, he'll forever be known as the beast of a man that all of us fans of his said he was. Sometimes, grit, balls, willpower and heart means more in this sport than skills and even winning, it's certainly something he can be proud of and brag about to his grandchildren. That was his Gatti moment, and that will go down as an iconic moment in history, as opposed to Callum Smith and Caleb Plant's wholly forgettable pisspoor efforts.
     
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  7. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    No... you're just being a hater, who's going out of your way to not get it and not see what the rest of us saw, just like you were doing before the fight. This is your version of macho pride. Get over it, and admire what he did in there, like everyone else.
     
  8. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    Still beats Buatsi maybe notnYarde at this point.

    Gvozdyk beats Ramirez.
     
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  9. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    Because you know nothing about fighting herderp.
     
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  10. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    You have Zero opinion buddy.
     
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  11. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    Right after he got dropped, he came back and tried to win the round, then when he got brutally rocked, he fought with everything he had and landing the best shots of the fight on Canelo. He fought with a broken nose for 11 rounds, which inhibited him for a about 4 rounds, then he got over it, gritted his teeth and fought through the pain. He won in many people's estimation, between 4 and 5 rounds, so no, you're not seeing things accurately.... you're living in your own reality. People are admiring his tenacity and heart, because he never stopped trying, and was starting to lay a beating on Canelo late. What? Did you tune out 7 rounds in? Did you actually watch the match, because I'm not sure you did.
     
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  12. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    Better than a rigojob aka quitting.

    Do you watch fights in Braille?
     
  13. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    Rigo quit like a dog. And you gave up on him like a dog.
     
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  14. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Actually, for any objective viewer, Ryder won 3 of the last 4 rounds.
     
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  15. elmaldito

    elmaldito Skillz Full Member

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    canelo should just stay away from bivol or benevidez. Maybe try to get charlo up to 68. Best option.
     
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