Is Fury the worst 'recognised' Heavyweight Champion in history?

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  1. fencik45

    fencik45 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    hard to lose something that only exists in certain peoples minds to begin with.
     
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  2. JMotrain

    JMotrain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A lot of good names already mentioned worse than Fury, I'll add a couple that I haven't seen: Lamon Brewster, Siarhei Liakovich, and Nikolai Valuev.

    The problem with Fury isn't that he's the worst HW champion. His problem is people rank him far too high, as if he'd beat every champion H2H because he's a tall guy who moves well. Also, he is a shameless ducker so he gets a lot of hate. Objectively he is a very good HW champion, better than most. But he also gets overrated at the same time and his resume is solid but not one of an ATG.
     
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  3. Dangerwood84

    Dangerwood84 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    At least Sharkey got out of the way, quickly. That's my point.
     
  4. Dangerwood84

    Dangerwood84 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm not talking belt holders, I'm talking universally recognised champs, those names weren't.
     
  5. Dangerwood84

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    Seldon was a belt holder.
     
  6. Dangerwood84

    Dangerwood84 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What? He's clearly the consensus champ, don't turn this into a game of scrabble!
     
  7. Dangerwood84

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    But they fought on, faced credible opponents.
     
  8. Dangerwood84

    Dangerwood84 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fair point but you have to go back a long way...lol!
     
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  9. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    The amount of butt hurt Fury causes is hilarious. He will eventually fight everyone relevant including Usyk and when it's all said and done Fury will be the last man standing IMO.
     
  10. Dangerwood84

    Dangerwood84 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good post and not singling yours out but there's been a few pedantic responses, Fury is clearly the recognised/consensus champ. Alphabet belt holders like Seldon etc don't qualify to be mentioned in this thread. Fury is being compared to Wlad, Lennox, Holyfield, Tyson, Holmes, Foreman, Ali, Frazier, Liston, Marciano, Louis and earlier. Heavyweights, clearly rated as the best in the division at the time.
     
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  11. vast

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    In his recent reign he's fought one guy who was a top fighter in Wilder. Other than that he has been the King of Cans and a coward to avoid Usyk.
     
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  12. JMotrain

    JMotrain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I see. Well, he might be better than Wlad Klitschko. I'm not sure who Fury loses to on Wlad's resume. But for longevity, you'd have to still rank Klitschko higher. Still, Fury beat him even if Klitschko was 95 years old.

    I wouldn't place Fury above Lewis, Tyson, Holyfield, Holmes; basically anyone recognized as champ from the 80s onward (except for maybe Klitschko). Those guys have losses but they fought everyone (and each other).
     
  13. The Cryptkeeper

    The Cryptkeeper Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Proper champions don't dodge opponents. Or make excuses.

    In my eyes Usyk is the champ. Fury is little more than a walking headline these days.

    The genuine greats fight all-comers. They actually want to prove themselves.
     
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  14. spravedlivylev

    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

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    Lol. Fury will turn 35 in a few months and he doesn’t fight more than once a year. He won’t fight until December (if he fights in 2023 at all). There are Usyk, Joshua, Ruiz, Zhang, Joyce whom he should fight at the very least. Also, you could throw in the likes of Hrgovic, Pulev, Sanchez, Makhmudov or Gassiev. How do you suppose he will fight all of them? You Furyettes elevate him to the level of the likes of Ali. Ali fought literally everyone, so don’t you give me the bull about “oh, but such and such fighter is not relevant”. The ogre talks about “no man born from his mother blah blah” but hasn’t fought a non-Wilder top fighter in eight years.

    And even if he was to fight the top five guys I mentioned, there will always be the argument that the fight is too late, the fighters are too old. Last spring, Usyk would have been 35 and Fury would have been 33. Now, even if they fight, Usyk will be nigh on 37 and Fury 35. Same thing with Joshua. They could have fought as early as 2019. Fury kept ducking him.

    It’s hilarious how those fanatic Furyettes who still side with the con man talk about such delusions how he will clean the division up still, while Shrek himself retires more per year than he actually fights. The last semi decent fight was against a chinny uppercut magnet plodder Whyte over a year ago. His last fight where there was at least a slight possibility for him to lose was in 2021.

    There hasn’t been a more cowardly, worthless champion in the history of this sport who conned his rabid fans into believing that he is an ATG. Even most of his supporters turned their backs on him by now, and rightly so. With the ideas you presented in your post you are in an ever receding pocket of overzealous fanboys of Shrek, mate. Time and track record is not on your side.
     
  15. AngryBirds

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    No he won't. You know as well as everyone else that Fury is ducking everyone who has a chance of beating him.