BOOM! -- Deontay Wilder is the new WBA #1 Contender

Was the one good one Helenius, because you picked him to KO Wilder?

Lots of guys on this site picked Wilder to lose over the last 10 years, and after he knocked them all out, those opponents all suddenly sucked or were mediocre. If he knocked out Fury, Fury would've sucked, too.

That's what happens when you don't let anyone stick around. If Wilder let six or seven of those guys go the distance, like Gassiev did, people would think his opponents were better.

 

I agree. And not stopping bad opponents is a sign that maybe you aren't all you're cracked up to be.

Deontay Wilder has stopped everyone he's faced - cans, contenders, former champs, title challengers - all except for Tyson Fury.

You're the one making excuses for why Gassiev couldn't stop all the cans, contenders, and title challengers he faced.

I don't have to. Wilder stopped all his (and usually gave up a bunch of weight doing so). All except Fury.

You know that's not true. So why even type it? Hell, he even stopped a top 10 heavyweight (WBA#2 Helenius) in his comeback fight last time out. That's why groups like Ring, the WBC, the WBA, the Transnational whatever... all have Wilder the top contender who doesn't have a trinket belt. (But I don't count those ratings ... or those ratings ... or those other ratings ... or one had him ranked and another didn't ... because blah, blah, blah, blah.)

When Gassiev or Bakole knock out their first top 10 heavyweight (according to ANY major sanctioning body), do let me know. Unless mopes like Ivaca Bacurin and Ferenc Zsalek were top 10 heavyweights and that's the reason why Gassiev and Bakole (respectively) couldn't stop them.

Until then, troll elsewhere.

There's a lot of stuff to debate on the board.

Whether Deontay Wilder "punches hard" isn't one of them. Catch up.

 

In the universe where Helenius won two WBA eliminators against the then-unbeaten Adam Kownacki and got rated #2.

Like how Bakole got his ranking for beating Yoka. And Ruiz got his recent ranking by beating Ortiz.

Do some of you guys follow boxing?

 

You mean like how Martin Bakole is rated #2 by the WBA and not rated at all by the IBF, WBO or Ring? Or Hrgovic is rated #1 by the IBF but only 15 by the WBC? That's boxing. You don't get title shots based on Boxrec or Ring ratings. You never have.

Usyk isn't going to make a mandatory BOXREC defense next.

 

(I like that. "Scammy as fuark.")

You think Tony Galento was really EVER the #1 heavyweight challenger in the world -- better than any other challenger? Do you think Don Cockell was ever the second-best heavyweight challenger on the planet? Seriously? Do you think Earnie Shavers was really ever the best heavyweight alive other than Larry Holmes? (Earnie couldn't even last against Bernardo Mercado months later.) But people say Joe Louis stopped the #1 rated Tony Galento and Rocky Marciano stopped #2 Don Cockell. And Holmes stopped the #1 rated Shavers.

The ratings have always been arbitrary and based on opinions. There's no system to it. The ratings are the ratings.

Regarding Helenius, he wasn't just placed in the top 10 WBA ratings (like Usyk was ranked #1 by the WBO before he even fought Chazz Witherspoon at heavyweight). Helenius won two eliminators he wasn't supposed to win against a guy (Kownacki) every org ranked in the top four at the time Helenius knocked him off the first time.

And people (in this thread) were picking Helenius to stop Wilder. But, when Wilder iced him, now Helenius is a "bum" (a word used by on of the same guys who picked him to win).

Some critics demand you go the distance and win a razor close decision before they'll say an opponent was any good. If you stop everyone, then they must've all sucked.

They'll do the same to Usyk if Wilder starches him. Like clockwork. Same thing if Wilder stops Joshua. They would've done it to Fury, too, but he got up.

 

Welcome aboard. It's a bumpy ride.