10-8 round

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  1. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    What are some rounds that you would call a 10-8 WITHOUT a knockdown
     
  2. sasto

    sasto Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    These days I'm not much in favor of them.
     
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  3. Fogger

    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    I hate that there aren't more 10-8 rounds. In fact, in my perfect world it would be a five point must system with 5-4 for a close round win, 5-3 for a non-close to dominant round, 5-2 for a knockdown round, 5-1 for a two KD round and 5-0 for three or more. Using this method most rounds would be scored 5-3.

    I know that is simplistic and that is just a general idea. If a guy is losing a round near the end and he scores a flash knockdown may be only gets 5-3 and so on. Discretion and common sense are certainly involved. It just makes no sense to have a 10-point must when no one ever goes lower than six. It also makes no sense that a close 10-9 round win in a tepid, almost actionless feel out round one is scored the same as a obvious, easy round win where the winner landed quite a few good shots.
     
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  4. drenlou

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    Off top of my head maybe round 10 of Holyfield-Tyson 1.?
     
  5. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'm usually opposed to doing it but there was a round in Berto versus Ortiz that I scored 10/8 without a knockdown


    I'm sure there were a couple of rounds in a few Klitschko fights that could have made the cut
     
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  6. edabomb

    edabomb Active Member Full Member

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    5-2 and 5-1 is a big swing for a knockdown round. Under this system Wilder would have beaten Fury in the first fight comfortably. Now you could say Fury would have had several 5-3 rounds of his own, but we both know in the real world he wouldn't get them.
     
  7. MAD_PIGE0N

    MAD_PIGE0N ... banned Full Member

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    I'm fine with them, the problem is that the sport got used to seeing and "tolerating" a very limited version of the 10-point scoring system. Just as it doesn't "tolerate" a draw round (not that it's forbidden), but allows a draw fight. Or it's very likely if you dominate a round, but get in a knockdown, you'll be the one to lose the round, while it can easily be ruled as a draw.
     
  8. smoking mirrors

    smoking mirrors Active Member Full Member

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    these should never be done. it’s an invitation for corruption. same with 10-10 rounds.

    scoring should have as rigid and binary criteria as possible.
     
  9. MAD_PIGE0N

    MAD_PIGE0N ... banned Full Member

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    Corruption is flourishing with or without - check your boxing clock.
     
  10. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Muhammad Ali vs Joe Frazier 11th round of their 1st fight.
     
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  11. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    Floyd and Gatti, literally 2-3 of the 6 rounds, especially the 6th.

    If that aint a 10-8, nothing is.
     
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  12. Showstopper97

    Showstopper97 The Icon Full Member

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    Mike Tyson vs Pinklon Thomas: Round 1
    Canelo vs Angulo: Round 1-7
    Floyd Mayweather vs Arturo Gatti: Round 2-6
    Sugar Ray Leonard vs Thomas Hearns II: Round 5
     
  13. fruitandnutcase

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    10-8 should be strictly for knockdowns. In my experience people arguing otherwise are allowing their MMA experience/enthusiasm to bleed through. Maybe even an element of esports as well

    Boxing isn't all-out combat, there is a ritualistic quality to it and forcing an opponent to take a knee is in many ways symbolic

    I would also like to add that people trying to overhaul or further complicate boxing's scoring criteria are a) making scoring fights even harder and b) missing the point that boxing has always been and will always be legalised prizefighting, not a true sport

    As much as we lament professional boxing's current state, not that the 'sport' has ever been perfect, I would prefer it to stay as-is than turn into the sterility of amateur boxing
     
  14. ArseBandit

    ArseBandit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Maidana Vs Khan round 10 or 11.

    No issue here with a dominant round being scored 10-8
     
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  15. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    If my math is right, a guy can win the 1st round 5-0, the 2nd 5-4 and the 3rd 5- 4 and lose rounds 4 thru 12 by 5-4 and still win the fight?
     
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