Fury calls out Usyk to fight at Wembley in summer

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  1. ruffryders

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    He's been like this for years, its just this behaviour was VS Wilder so you all gave it a pass and supported him for it.

    Now its Usyk and your eyes have opened
     
  2. Leeroy84

    Leeroy84 Lancashire-la-la-la Full Member

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    Living legend, YES. But he couldnt draw flies to ****. (and I dont buy any of that Chisora Bellew PPV draw bollocks, if he drew anything he's be making the offers, not running around dancing to other peoples tunes begging for bigger splits).

    So Usyk ducks and goes where the better offer is then, fair enough. Dubois in Poland, or in the US with Wilder. I still say 30% at Wembley is better than either of those, but I can see an arguement for Wilder trying to pay Usyk more to bring him to the US.

    In the meantime Fury fights a joke sideshow and we end up with Fury Wilder 4 at the end of the year. Yuk.

    Usyk should take it now. Its the best offer and he can have his rematch in Saudi if he wants it anyway, if he wins both, Im certain the Saudis would be back for more deals too.

    The only reason to duck, is the same reason Fury used in April. Oil money.
    Lets see what Oleksadrs next move is.
     
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  3. spravedlivylev

    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

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    So Usyk isn’t a draw because you don’t believe his PPV sales. And Fury is a draw because you don’t believe his PPV sales are that sh*t. Brilliant. Don’t let reality stop you, mate.

    [url]It’s not as if Fury, having already fought Wilder in the US, fought in front of a measly 7000 people in a 20.000 seats arena in Las Vegas - and most of these people were attending with complimentary tickets, lol.
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    But Usyk is the sh*t draw, sure.
     
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  4. Leeroy84

    Leeroy84 Lancashire-la-la-la Full Member

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    Show us the offers he's making Sprav. Poland LMFAO. Wilders waiting..
     
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  5. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    Why would Fury want to fight an ugly middleweight who no one knows the name of? Is he a cretin or something?

    Fury's far too handsome and far too high level a draw to waste his time on a hideous welterweight from Kazakhstan or wherever he's from, who has no good wins like Tom Schwartz or Francesco Pianeta on his resume, and who doesn't even have any belts besides the WBO, WBA, IBF and Ring. He needs to get his head in gear and realise the only fight that makes sense right now is... Manuel Charr.

    Charr or retirement.
     
  6. spravedlivylev

    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

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    Poland was only mentioned as an option because that’s the closest Usyk can fight home. But you know that, just wanted to twist it to fit your agenda. Regardless, Usyk would fill any arena in Poland, but that’s not the point.

    Let me throw the question back at you. Show me where Fury would fill arenas. In the US, he doesn’t - and he is banned from there because he is a scum with criminal associations. In Germany, he doesn’t (as evidenced by the Wlad bout). In Saudi, he doesn’t. He pretty much was told he isn’t worth the money he thinks he is. Ouch. When Zhang mentioned he wanted the bout to be China, Fury shot the idea down immediately. Why? Isn’t he supposed to be this mega-giga-ultra-nano global star?

    So where do all this leave him? Only the UK. Because, once again, he is a sh*t draw. Usyk globally is a better draw. He certainly is a better draw in Saudi, for example. Why doesn’t Fury want to fight there? Two reasons: he knows he wouldn’t have his judges, his promotion etc. there so he couldn’t score a robbery points decision when it comes to that. And he simply isn’t getting the money he thinks he is worth. The Saudis are businessman. They only care about market value. Fury and all his vassals can think he is the greatest thing since sliced bread, while the realities of the sport economy are simple. He just isn’t. He sells tickets in the UK - big deal. Local fighter sells tickets, shocking. Zhang in China can do the same and with much larger crowds as he is unconditionally admired by his fellow countrymen. That’s what usually happens when athletes don’t con their compatriots, you see ;)
     
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  7. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    Tis this
     
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  8. Leeroy84

    Leeroy84 Lancashire-la-la-la Full Member

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    All that waffle just to try to deflect and spin. Just show me an offer that Usyks made to Fury. Not his counter-responses. Wlad could draw to Germany. Usyks best offer so far to Dubois is in Poland and he couldnt even get that over the line!
     
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  9. spravedlivylev

    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

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    So, it's Usyk's fault that Dubois:
    1) will most probably pull out
    2) doesn't want to fight abroad

    Got you.

    And the offer is simple: location doesn't matter, 50/50 purse split. Transparent, straightforward. The fight could have happened twice already if not for Fury. How curious that the common denominator in all big HW fights collapsing in the past years is Fury. Usyk never had a problem with getting a fight deal done. Same with Joshua. The two managed to sign contracts for two huge fights without any problems. Fury quickly and easily signs deals when it is a Schwarz or a starving, chinny uppercut magnet or a 40-year-old with 12 losses. Yet, when it comes to his fighting either Joshua or Usyk, the fights never happen. But of course, it's not Fury's fault, it never is :D

    You boys are funny.
     
  10. Leeroy84

    Leeroy84 Lancashire-la-la-la Full Member

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    Knew you'd deflect again. Bore off Sprav, you're like a broken record.
     
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  11. spravedlivylev

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    What the hell are you talking about, mate? This is the offer: 50/50 split, location doesn't matter. This is what both Arum and Warren agreed to with Team Usyk way back in 2021. This has always been the offer. Fury was the one who moved the goalposts ever since.

    On another note, I love that Mad_Ducky just mindlessly agrees with anyone who disagrees with me, regardless of merit or the actual topic :D Hope you are good, Ducky boy. [url]Don't argue too much with Krassyuk, I wouldn't want your remaining single-digit amount of brain cells to fry <3 [/url]
     
  12. Leeroy84

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    No, that was a counter to Furys offer. Show me an offer Usyk made to Fury, and ofcourse location matters.

    You can't because there isnt one, so you deflect.

    The offer (from Fury) is now 70/30 Wembley (an offer Usyk has bravely accepted before), with the rematch clause to Usyks liking.
    Thats a good offer, especially if he's confident. No reason to duck IMO. Lots of things could change before December.
     
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  13. spravedlivylev

    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

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    Wrong. As early as last spring, the offer was this - 50/50 split, location doesn't matter.

    Since yesterday, Fury backtracked on the rematch thing again, lol. Look, mate. I appreciate your loyalty and trying to justify Fury's bullsh*t. But you see, even you can't keep up with his erratic ways. And I'm pretty sure that what you do is an act. You perfectly know how Fury is, how all big fights always collapse around him, how he didn't have a meaningful fight in almost two years, etc. You just stick to your guns because you value fan loyalty. It's admirable but misplaced. Fury sh*ts on you, his most devoted fans, the hardest.
     
  14. Leeroy84

    Leeroy84 Lancashire-la-la-la Full Member

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    Location does matter though Sprav. UK is on the table, and Fury sells more here. There's nothing on the table from the Saudis right now, and nothing coming from team Usyk (as normal).
    Krassyuk said it himself "Fury is the big tickets seller", and before you start your context BS, it was in the exact context of the contest between Fury and Usyk in the UK.

    Now theres a good offer on the table. One Usyk has already accepted, with the rematch protection if he needs it.
     
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  15. spravedlivylev

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    No, it's not a good offer, mate. Usyk has been training for a different fight now, first of all.

    Second of all, the Wembley thing only came about because Fury priced himself out of Saudi. Even his own team confirmed from the beginning that the aim was always to have it staged in Saudi. Why should the fight go to the UK? Why should the unified champion dance to the tune of a single-belt con man?

    Third of all, the 30% was a one-time thing. Team Usyk said so straight away. They called the ogre's bluff. It was an insult, to begin with - no unified champion ever took 30% before. Can you imagine Fury ever saying yes? And now you suggest Usyk should do it a second time in three months. You surely must be having a laugh.

    Fourth of all, it wasn't Usyk who talked about rematches in the first place. That was Fury's idea. Then he didn't want to do it. Then he wanted to do it still. What an erratic, unreliable pr*ck. Just as well, now he went back on his word again. He said two days ago that he didn't care about rematches, Usyk "can have one if he wants" (again, as if it wasn't Fury who wanted the rematch thing in the first place, lol), but now he went back on his word again. Seriously, I can't believe you as a fan don't feel like "please, Tyson, calm the f*ck down, at least stay consistent for 48 hours, you really giving me a hard time trying to defend your words and actions here".

    So no, it's not a good offer at all. It's a scam again, and it's so laughably obvious what Fury is trying to do that Usyk never even bothered to respond to it yet.
     
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