When a close fight became a robbery.

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  1. miniq

    miniq FURY COMETH 2026 Full Member

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    115-111 Wilder from corrupt judge Rochin

    Fury won that fight
     
  2. monaim

    monaim Member Full Member

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    It's one of rather clever robbery.
     
  3. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things.

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    I guess that´s fair.
    But another judge could have seen it 113-113 as well.
    The draw wasn´t a bad outcome. Two of the judges gave acceptable cards.
     
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  4. Rollin

    Rollin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Robbery is definied by me by the extent to which the reality of easy to score rounds is distorted by the judges. Usually they start to lean into an almost amateurish scoring system where unclean punches taken on the gloves being an indicator of anything, and body shots suddenly scoring like good blows to the head.

    When Lomacheko was online, he was landing pitch perfect clean punches. First few rounds his defense alone was immensly impressive and he actually landed cleaner shots as well. But hey, clean defense only matters when you score for the house fighter, read Canelo and the pack.

    It's Joshua formula all over again. Bigger punches throws those glancing or blocked blows, throws a body shot or two, and suddenly it outweights or matches the smaller fighter finding a clear as a day shot that was the result of superior craft.
     
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  5. Rollin

    Rollin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    10th round for Haney is as bad as it gets.
     
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  6. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Giving rd10 to Haney is evidence of corruption
     
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  7. ruffryders

    ruffryders Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I had Wilder winning that fight. You don't win a fight by landing 1 more pitty patty punch per round and tasting the canvas twice

    Fury definitely won the story of the fight though and although I thought fight 2 was stopped early, he won both 2 and 3.
     
  8. ruffryders

    ruffryders Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I thought this was a close fight, Loma didn't do enough early on and especially in the mid rounds.
    He bossed a few rounds towards the end though.

    I don't think it was a robbery, but without doing a round by round score, it seemed loma won to me. But that often happens when one fighter dominates the end of the fight, you forget the boring rounds he lost.

    As humans we remember the winner of exciting rounds more than the winner of boring rounds. Haney is a fairly boring fighter when he wins, no drama happens
     
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  9. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things.

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    My first amateur fight a coach told me to throw big body shots as that´s what judges notice the most.
     
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  10. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Honestly this feels like another Canelo/GGG again, and to a lesser extent Pacquiao/JMM 1-3. People are so quick to call robbery when a fight is razor thin.

    I was rooting for Loma to pull it off and I believed he nicked it but fell short. I’m not gonna waste my breathe moaning about robbery just because the fighter I wanted to win didn’t have his way.
     
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  11. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion

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    No robbery at all, most people dont even know what a robbery is. . Pea-jcc was a robbery this was nothing like that. Close fights aren't robberies period.
     
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  12. Nopporn

    Nopporn Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mate...I've tried to explain this to people but many of them seemed not try to understand it. They just couldn't accept it when their favorite fighter got beaten in a close fight.
     
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  13. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Don’t give me that ****ing gaslighting bull****, we all know judges make bad decisions. When a large contingent of the boxing public thinks one fighter won and the judges don’t, usually that comes down to the judges bring wrong, not the public.

    Your argument and analogy is ****ing garbage, NPC type ****.
     
  14. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    welcome to my ignore list you ****ing clown
     
  15. The Professor

    The Professor Socialist Ring Leader Staff Member

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    Here we go again. People can't seem to acknowledge the inherent subjectivity in boxing scoring. Just because YOU scored a round a particular way - especially a close round - does NOT mean it is the ONLY way it reasonably can be scored.

    I scored this fight 116-112 for Lomachenko. But this is a classic example of a fight with MANY close rounds that could be scored either way. Although I scored most of the early rounds for Loma, I have NO objection to those who might have scored some or all of these for Haney.

    Sadly, as usual with many close fights with debatable rounds, the cries of "robbery" have ensued. Some of this is agenda driven, with fans of each fighter favoring "their guy," but a lot of it, I think, stems from misplaced certitude and a lack of humility about the accuracy of one's judgements about close, competitive rounds.
     
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